Author: Moritz Berger
Date: 01:36:16 05/05/98
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************************************************** Thorsten, you are knowingly misrepresenting facts. ************************************************** *ALL* (read: all) Windows programs use their own (read: proprietary) auto232 compatible "mechanisms". There is no such thing as a "generic" Windows auto232 "component" (for example, this could be a shared library, auto232.dll in the Windows directory, just like MFC40.DLL). Every program has its own implementation of the autoplayer driver, the only requirement is compatibility with the existing (read: DOS) version. For the paranoid among us: The fact that Chrilly Donninger and Stefan Meyer-Kahlen have publicized the source codes (not executables, binary files, but C programs(!)) of 2 different (!) auto232 drivers for Windows (read: 32 bit Windows, not 16 bit Windows, hence not usable without modifications by Fritz) doesn't ensure at all that Shredder and Nimzo (both Windows programs) do in fact use exactly those drivers - if you consider e.g. the bugfixes in the latest Nimzo patch you might conclude that the probability is indeed quite high that they did not just copy and paste the public sourcecode into their programs but made some modifications. Thorsten's statement >No - when Fritz5 implemented the auto232 device, THAN anything is ok. therefore is utterly impossible to fulfill, ever, by any Windows programmer, since there is no such thing as "the auto232 device". The "slap in the face" statement from Thorsten therefore is really a slap in the face - in the face of truth. The sad thing about this is that I informed Thorsten about exactly these technical aspects in a recent telephone call. "Why the hell" does Thorsten chose to cheat here by repeating his ignorant ramblings? He ought to know better by now, and I'm sure he does. But there seem to be truly special rules for ChessBase if it comes to him ... His behaviour reminds me of the church's official attitude towards the discoveries of Gallilei, a position which they upheld for an amazing 400 years. Let's see how long it takes for Thorsten to admit certain facts ... ;-) This is beyond any kind of controversial discussion, this is *facts* vs. *fiction*. Moritz On May 04, 1998 at 19:23:18, Thorsten Czub wrote: >On May 04, 1998 at 10:53:22, Ed Schröder wrote: > >>I don't want to play against secret autoplayers. That is unfair >>competition. That's all. Simple or not? You tell me. >> >>- Ed Schroder - > >Nimzo, Hiarcs, Rebel, Mchess, Genius, Shredder, junior3.5, Wchess, >zarkov, Diogenes, Cstal, Diep, Gandalf, Kallisto, Comet, ... and many >others... > >ALL use the auto232 device ! >The codes are open, no tricks. >Any programmer has nothing against this device implemented. Nobody ever >complaint. > >Why the hell does CHESS BASE the worlds leading company in making money >out of computerchess get an exception ? They invent the wheel new and do >not open their autoplayer. And the ssd-guys await that all other >programmers who accepted thwe auto232 autoplayer do now accept this >without beeing asked ??? > >No - when Fritz5 implemented the auto232 device, THAN anything is ok. >Not earlier ! > >The decision : ChessBase is allowed to use an own interface is a slap in >the face of the above named programs who implemented (BEEING FAIR !!!) >the device. >And supported own testing, ssdf-testing and freaks and testers. > >But this decision of ChessBase is a slap in the face. > >I don't understand that other people do not see this. > >How many programs do we have that succesfully implemented the auto232 >interface ???? >20 ? >So it is 20:1 decision !
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