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Subject: Re: No more Excuses Dr. Hyatt, you said if Fritz beats Huebner then C =GM

Author: Terry McCracken

Date: 18:20:34 07/15/01

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On July 15, 2001 at 14:54:52, Uri Blass wrote:

>On July 15, 2001 at 12:37:02, Terry McCracken wrote:
>
>>On July 15, 2001 at 11:36:39, Otello Gnaramori wrote:
>>
>>>On July 15, 2001 at 10:57:47, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 15, 2001 at 07:58:10, odell hall wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Give both technology and programming another 5 years and I believe by then we'll
>>>>have _solid_ GM 2600+ chess playing monsters!
>>>>
>>>>Terry
>>>
>>>That is truly an interesting point.
>>>If it is just a matter of time let's just wait and see.
>>>But probably Terry you are omitting some interesting signals coming from
>>>Argentina. IMHO it is a sign that we are approaching that 2600 line very quickly
>>>and some top program is probably already there in a certain configuration. The
>>>match with Huebner can also contribute to clarify better the current "state of
>>>the art" in computer chess since it is played at tournament time setting and Dr.
>>>Huebner is an anticomps specialist.
>>>
>>>Regards.
>>
>>Thanks for your reply, Mr. Gnaramori.
>>
>>No, I considered the event in Argentina, but that doesn't convince me, we need
>>much more data, before we can establish whether or not computers/chessprograms,
>>really _are_ 2600 or better. I do agree that the _gap_ is certainly closing!
>>The five year mark is a _cautious_ estimate.
>>Actually in might be possible for programs to reach 2800 in the next 5 years,
>>but that IMO is an optimistic guess!;)
>
>No this is not the optimistic guess. No?
>
>The optimistic guess is my guess Really?
>My guess is that you need to wait less time for it. Ok, 3 years!;)
>
>My guess is that good chess programs can also teach the best humans to play
>better so getting 2800 or even 2900 is not going to be enough to be number 1 in
>the world.
Uri

Hmmmm... I 've thought about this as well, will computers push the best beyond
the " 2900 Barrier "?  It may indeed aid humans to achieve this level of play,
but there is a human limit and 2900 might be it? I'll be optimistic, 3000 could
be the human limit?;)

Well computers will almost definately break the " 3000 Barrier " and beyond!

Terry
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