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Subject: Re: does chessbase care about wb engines

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 09:16:30 07/16/01

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On July 16, 2001 at 11:00:16, ERIQ wrote:

>On July 16, 2001 at 06:35:07, CLiebert wrote:
>
>>On July 16, 2001 at 02:26:53, ERIQ wrote:
>>
>>>maybe the problem w/ chessbase interface and wb engines is that, bigbrother does
>>>not care about them performing at their best.
>>>
>>>Why should they ?! wb engines are free, they don't make money from them but they
>>>compete strongly w/ fritz,nimzo, etc. their *bread and butter* products.
>>>
>>>So if wb-engines somehow get dumbed down alittle great. I guess that justifys
>>>the price of "pro" engines.
>>>
>>>  sign,
>>>    Eriq
>>
>>
>>First: Why do you think CB put efforts in developing the adapter?
>I don't and that's the problem

Some people know only to complain.

Chessbase did not have to give winboard adapter.
It is something they gave for free.

People buy Junior,Fritz or Tiger  not for the winboard adapter.

With no effort about adapter programs like yace could not work under chessbase.
>
>>Second: there are a lots of engines showing no difference in playing strenght.
>>If programmers a willing and able to optmize their engines for fritz they could
>>do this. Borgstädt did it for Goliath, Kai Skibbe for gromit, other examples are
>>Anmon, Faile or TCB. The Natives and wb-adapter-versions of these engines are
>>quite at the same level in pratice,
>
>>did you try one of them?
>
> yes, YACE no pondering

Yace can ponder under the right winboard adapter.
I understood from reading posts here that some people made a downgrade of the
aspater so winboard  programs cannot ponder and it is not only a problem of yace
and with the old adapter that is free yace has no problem of pondering.

I have no idea who did the downgrade of the adapter and what is the
reason(probably a bug in something that was not tested).
>
>>But if you like to hold on you big brother theories, feel free ...
>
>does anyone else find it strange that if other interfaces can be made to work
>well w/ all wb-engines IE. (chess acadamy), but not CB "the biggest company".

No

If I find something strange then it is the fact that winboard engines can run
under chessbase or under other companies.

Please understand that most people do not buy chessbase products or products of
other companies in order to run free programs.

Uri



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