Author: José Carlos
Date: 10:33:57 07/16/01
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On July 16, 2001 at 12:16:30, Uri Blass wrote: >On July 16, 2001 at 11:00:16, ERIQ wrote: > >>On July 16, 2001 at 06:35:07, CLiebert wrote: >> >>>On July 16, 2001 at 02:26:53, ERIQ wrote: >>> >>>>maybe the problem w/ chessbase interface and wb engines is that, bigbrother does >>>>not care about them performing at their best. >>>> >>>>Why should they ?! wb engines are free, they don't make money from them but they >>>>compete strongly w/ fritz,nimzo, etc. their *bread and butter* products. >>>> >>>>So if wb-engines somehow get dumbed down alittle great. I guess that justifys >>>>the price of "pro" engines. >>>> >>>> sign, >>>> Eriq >>> >>> >>>First: Why do you think CB put efforts in developing the adapter? >>I don't and that's the problem > >Some people know only to complain. > >Chessbase did not have to give winboard adapter. >It is something they gave for free. > >People buy Junior,Fritz or Tiger not for the winboard adapter. I think you are completely wrong here. People are asking for a winboard tournament manager for a long time now. CB is a nice interface with tournament support. The more engines people can run under a GUI, and the more features the GUI offer, the more people is going to buy it. CB is a commercial company. They make decisions in order to make money. If they give a WB adapter for free, is _only_ because they expect to sell more this way. I'd do the same, of course; but I'd be honest, and would give a WB adapter that wouldn't hurt free engines strength. That's the point. >With no effort about adapter programs like yace could not work under chessbase. >> >>>Second: there are a lots of engines showing no difference in playing strenght. >>>If programmers a willing and able to optmize their engines for fritz they could >>>do this. Borgstädt did it for Goliath, Kai Skibbe for gromit, other examples are >>>Anmon, Faile or TCB. The Natives and wb-adapter-versions of these engines are >>>quite at the same level in pratice, >> >>>did you try one of them? >> >> yes, YACE no pondering > >Yace can ponder under the right winboard adapter. >I understood from reading posts here that some people made a downgrade of the >aspater so winboard programs cannot ponder and it is not only a problem of yace >and with the old adapter that is free yace has no problem of pondering. > >I have no idea who did the downgrade of the adapter and what is the >reason(probably a bug in something that was not tested). >> >>>But if you like to hold on you big brother theories, feel free ... >> >>does anyone else find it strange that if other interfaces can be made to work >>well w/ all wb-engines IE. (chess acadamy), but not CB "the biggest company". > >No > >If I find something strange then it is the fact that winboard engines can run >under chessbase or under other companies. Nothing strange, Uri. They'll sell more if they support more engines. >Please understand that most people do not buy chessbase products or products of >other companies in order to run free programs. Answered above. >Uri José C.
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