Author: Enrique Irazoqui
Date: 15:30:24 05/05/98
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On May 05, 1998 at 15:13:20, Thorsten Czub wrote: >On May 05, 1998 at 09:28:42, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: > >>>This is still my demand. > >>And why is that, Thorsten. The autoplayer in F5 is clean. The games were >>played. Why should anyone do as if these games didn't exist? > >The games were not played manually and they were not played with the >common auto232 interface. Again: 1. there is NO common auto232 interface for Windows, even less for 16 bit Windows. 2. the autoplayer is clean, the games were fair. > There is a public demand by Ed that ALL >programs should use the auto232 interface. No. There is a demand about autoplayers being made available. It is impossible to demand the use of an autoplayer that does NOT exist. > ChessBase Fritz5 too ! This >seems to me a very realistic and sensible proposal. >Of course the games of the ChessBase-autoplayer cannot be counted, since >they were not outplayed by an autoplayer that was confirmed by >participants (all other auto232 programs). >It is very obvious WHY the games cannot be counted. The reason the >programs should use the auto232 player by chrilly donninger is to give >ssdf-list a trustable and honorable status back. Without any doubts. >If you would use the results of the ChessBase autoplayer-games, the >problems would be follow due to adding them. >What is your problem ? If fritz is as good as you claim, and the >ChessBase autoplayer is the same as auto232, than the results of Fritz5 >will be the same 1st rank ! Nobody would have a problem seeing Fritz5 on >first rank outplayed with an auto232-interface ! Of course. It would be impossible, because such a universal autoplayer exists only in your mind. >>>Or the games played by the Fritz5 autoplayer are not counted. They have >>>to implement the auto232 interface and then anything is ok... >>>Why not that way - the auto232 sources for window programs are free. >>>Stefan or chrilly can send them to Matthias. > >>This is not true. There is NO 16 bit Windows autoplayer anywhere. Fritz >>needed its own. You have been told this before. I don't know why you >>insist in making a false point. > >The code for 16 or 32 bit should not be the problem. I don't think the >code is as tricky as chess-algorithms. > >>After Ed proved the autoplayer F5 is clean, what do you have left to >>demand that games autolayed by F5 should not count for rating purposes? >>And again you insist in making another false point. > >I don't see that Ed has PROVED something. Really... >I demand what I demand. It is not up to you to tell me what I demand. >You can comment on this. As you have done. This is all Enrique. Not >more. >Not less. >I insist in my ideas because I believe I am right. >You can insist in your ideas. But don't tell me how I do have to think. I wouldn't dream of it. :) >Thanks. > >>You know, when argumentations fall on their nose and some hold on to >>them as for dear life, what is left is not a discussion any longer but a >>campaign of discredit. > >The miscredit is selfmade. When Mercedes cinstructs a car and the car >falls on the NOSE, this cannot be a campaign of journalists. The workers >at Mercedes have made the mistake. The journalists do only publish the >pictures of a mercedes on the NOSE. >ChessBase has decided not to support the auto232 interface although >there is o need to do so. All other programmers support this interface. >ChessBase acted against the common sense. >The miscredit comes from actions. ChessBase is in charge of their own >actions. > >>Enrique > >A campaign is that you call me launching a campaign because of whatever >reasons. I would also have fought against CSTAL if chris would lead the >list with a special-autoplayer-device and special hardware etc. >YOU claim that I am doing it for personal reason. This is an offense. >There is no need for offending people. Or not here. No offense intended. Come on, Thorsten. Don't play ping-pong. You show too much hypersensitivity to be the author of, for instance, your answer to Thoralf. Enrique
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