Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: Can Deep Fritz 7 find better moves than Deep Blue in 1997 ??

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 05:40:53 08/11/01

Go up one level in this thread


On August 11, 2001 at 03:43:37, Mark Young wrote:

>On August 10, 2001 at 17:45:56, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On August 10, 2001 at 14:18:15, Theo van der Storm wrote:
>>
>>>On August 10, 2001 at 13:25:10, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>>>On August 10, 2001 at 02:57:51, Peter Berger wrote:
>>>...
>>>>>I don't think many reporters were really thinking of this Hongkong game. More
>>>>>likely they were confused by the qualifier against Deep Junior.
>>>
>>>On the other hand here's what journalists world-wide use
>>>as a reference to the history of computer-chess:
>>>http://www.braingames.net/index.php?f=chess_center/events&p=mvm_history
>>>Evidently the list has been carefully designed with regard to
>>>the information that has been left out.
>>
>>It is also wrong in at least one place.  Cray Blitz never had "one processor
>>per square".  That was HiTech, but some incompetent got it wrong.  And then
>>they have Fritz beating Deep Blue in 1995, before it existed.  That was deep
>>thought.
>
>It was reported at the time in Chess Life, or Inside chess that Deep Thought had
>some kind of hardware problem. This problem slowed down the search speed of Deep
>Thought. Do you know if that report was accurate? If I remember correctly Deep
>thought played one bad move caused by this problem, which cost Deep Thought the
>game. It was reported that a correctly running Deep Thought was able to play the
>correct and saving move in a matter of seconds.


What happened was that Deep Thought's communication link was broken.  Which
killed the program.  It was pondering correctly and it had found a reasonable
move that would have avoided the instant loss.  They reconnected, and then
restarted the program and it moved much quicker than it should have because
it was started "cold" and the time was set which lost a good bit of time.

If not for the comm failure, the game most likely would have ended differently,
but things happen.  They lost a game at the last ACM event due to a monster
thunderstorm knocking out power to the Watson phone system.  Deep Thought was
on a huge UPS in the lab, but the phones were dead and after two hours, the
game was given up as unplayable so the next round could be paired.  They _still_
won the event cleanly (no need of tie-breaks).




>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>>With Deep Blue,Deep Blue Junior and Deep Junior it's easy to fail.
>>>>>
>>>>>And if they read that Fritz qualified in a computer match to challenge the
>>>>>worldmaster they probably assumed Deep Blue as a logical opponent.
>>>>
>>>>Also, if they hear that there was a qualifier, they assume that the best
>>>>programs played -- they assume that the winner is our de-facto champion.
>>>>
>>>>It is possible that the best programs did play, but it's true that many who
>>>>might have won did not play.
>>>>
>>>>Something tells me that *nobody* anywhere near this event has mentioned that we
>>>>have a computer world champion, and it is not Fritz.
>>>
>>>Indeed. It is Pocket Fritz :-)
>>>Right, Stefan?
>>>
>>>>This is leading down very predictable lines.
>>>>bruce
>>>>>pete



This page took 0 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.