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Subject: Re: more examples for search-based stupidity

Author: blass uri

Date: 19:57:12 06/13/98

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On June 13, 1998 at 19:39:02, Thorsten Czub wrote:


>[Event "k6/200 40/120"]
>[Site "?"]
>[Date "1998.??.??"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White "Claus Carstens"]
>[Black "Junior 4.6"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>[ECO "D00"]
>[Annotator "Czub,T"]
>[PlyCount "37"]
>
>{3072kB, jun_book.ctg
>} 1. d4 {26} 1... d5 {2} 2. e4 {2} 2... dxe4 {
>-0.60/13 130} 3. Nc3 {247} 3... Nf6 {-0.56/15 0} 4. f3 {21} 4... exf3 {
>-0.72/14 177} 5. Nxf3 {8} 5... e6 {-0.77/15 177} 6. Bg5 {20} 6... Nbd7 {
>-0.77/15 692} 7. a3 {12} 7... Be7 {-0.94/16 392} 8. Qd2 {16} 8... O-O {
>-0.97/16 369} 9. Qf2 {17} 9... a5 {-1.12/14 306} 10. Qh4 {53} 10... h6 {
>-1.26/16 583} 11. Bd3 {4} 11... hxg5 {-2.81/15 209} 12. Nxg5 {108} 12...
>g6 {
>-2.54/16 473} 13. Qh6 {23} 13... Qe8 {-1.79/12 83} 14. O-O {14} 14...
>Bc5 {
>#6/12 446} 15. Rxf6 {16} 15... Bxd4+ {#6/18 381} 16. Kh1 {12} 16... Nxf6
>{
>#4/41 332} 17. Nce4 {16} 17... Bd7 {#3/49 53} 18. Nxf6+ {9} 18... Bxf6
>{#2/51 0
>} 19. Qh7# {11} 1-0
>
>
>[Event "40/120 k6/200"]
>[Site "?"]
>[Date "1998.??.??"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White "Claus Carstens"]
>[Black "Virtual2 "]
>[Result "1-0"]
>[ECO "D00"]
>[Annotator "Czub,T"]
>[PlyCount "47"]
>
>{3072kB
>} 1. d4 {0} 1... d5 {0.07/14 11} 2. e4 dxe4 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. f3 exf3 5.
>Nxf3 5... Bg4 {This is the so called Teichmann-variation. Also not the
>best
>defense against BDG. Computers often play this defense because they like
>the
>bishop on g4 pinning the queen.   } 6. h3 Bxf3 7. Qxf3 c6 8. Qf2 e6 9.
>Bg5 Nbd7
>10. a3 10... Be7 {You see the pattern. Exactly the same structures as in
>the
>first game vs. Junior. Virtual2 plays the same moves, not understanding
>1 % of
>white's plan.  } 11. Qh4 O-O 12. Ne4 h6 13. Bd3 hxg5 14. Nxg5 g6 15. Qh6
>Qe8
>16. O-O Bd6 17. Rxf6 Nxf6 18. Rf1 Bf4 19. Rxf4 Qd7 20. Rh4 Qxd4+ 21.
>Rxd4 Rfd8
>22. Rh4 Nh5 23. Qh7+ Kf8 24. Qxf7# 1-0
>
>
>The problem in those games is NOT hxg.

I do not agree.
can you show me how white win against Junior or virtualchess in these
games after Nd5 instead of hxg5.
I prefer to play with black in these positions.

in the second game 15...Qa5+ is better than 15...Qe8 and I am not sure
if
black loses.
I dod not found a win but I did not try for a long time.

Uri


>It is the fact that black does not understand the sense of 4.f3.
>It is the fact that black does not understand that o-o into this
>position is suicide. The fact that black does not understand why
>Qd1-d2-f2-h4 makes sense. Black does not understand why a3 is important
>in almost any BDG-opening.
>
>If people deny these important facts, and tell me strange things about
>chess instead, i think it is better to split ccc into computer-club and
>chess-club.
>The things bob and don want to discuss can be said for all other games
>too.
>The things I want to show in the games are typical for chess. and maybe
>we speak a different language. It is not anything 100% tactics. Nothing
>is 100%.



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