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Subject: Re: How rebel plays at SSDF

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 13:34:09 06/16/98

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On June 16, 1998 at 13:03:47, Enrique Irazoqui wrote:

>On June 16, 1998 at 10:34:46, Peter Herttrich wrote:
>
>>On June 15, 1998 at 15:00:08, Moritz Berger wrote:
>>
>>>On June 15, 1998 at 14:37:12, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>>
>>>>>Posted by Vincent Diepeveen on June 15, 1998 at 13:26:04:
>>>>
>>>>>It's just so that cg5 book is a little older than rebel9 book so logically
>>>>>rebel has been cooked against cg5.
>>>>
>>>>Wrong.
>>>>
>>>>As usual.
>>>>
>>>>Rebel books only contain hand typed opening moves from (printed) theory
>>>>books.
>>>>
>>>>- Ed -
>>>
>>>... and everybody knows that the G5 book contains several onions ...
>>
>>Ok, you take the book and i take the onions.
>>And i think this discussion will not guide to anything.
>
>I have to disagree. For the last year and a half Vincent claimed that Rebel
>books are full of killer lines and that this would be the reason of Rebel's good
>performance in the SSDF games. This discussion may serve a purpose if we clear
>this issue one way or another. So far we saw no proof at all of any cooks in
>Rebel books. If all Vincent has to show after 18 months is the lines he posted
>yesterday, then he has no grounds at all to sustain his accusation.
>
>Enrique

You should be moderated Enrique for such a naive approach of chess
where people try to earn their money with.

If a GM knows you fall for a trick then he'll play it. Definitely.
I'm not sure what a GM earns.

When you sell tens of thousands of copies of chessprograms you can multiply
this with 100 dollar a copy, from which of course others get their part too.

We see clearly that in games like soccer when the salary is higher,
the game gets tougher.

My point is, why do guys like you Enrique still believe the opposite of
computer chess? I think it quite natural what the commercials are doing,
the only point i want to raise is why do so many people believe fairy tales?

If you can win by cooking a line 20 times like Bob a post higher explains,
then learning is also not gonna help you.

If you play around 1000 games every 2 weeks
(around 7 autoplayers * 14 days * 10 games an autoplayer every 24 hours;
all games i get from Jan Louwman are either 1 minute or 1.5 or 2 minutes
a move at K6, and 1.5 minutes a game makes up for 14 games every 24
hours, when chopping off at 60 moves), then this means you play in 1 year
easily 25,000 games. That's a small subset of the tournament book, and
an even smaller subset of the games you play in SSDF.

So as 26,000 games are covering ALL games you possibly could play in
SSDF, then i think we can talk about serious preparing against the
opponents.

Get the numbers right Enrique, 25000 games a year, and as versions
tend to take a little longer than a year or sometimes way longer, just
think of it 25000 games?

>>Peter

Vincent



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