Author: Jonas Cohonas
Date: 13:35:02 02/18/02
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On February 18, 2002 at 16:09:46, Ricardo Gibert wrote: >On February 18, 2002 at 15:36:04, Jonas Cohonas wrote: > >>On February 18, 2002 at 15:23:18, Dann Corbit wrote: >> >>>On February 18, 2002 at 14:12:29, Jonas Cohonas wrote: >>> >>>>http://www.betachess.dk >>> >>>Lots of clicking without purpose. >>> >>>We can only ask ourselves, "Why?" >>> >>>Right off the bat, I find that I must click on something that says "[enter]". >>> >>>Now, I ask myself the question: >>> >>>Why did I type http://www.betachess.dk if it were not for the purpose of >>>entering the site? >>> >>>Don't hide menus. >>> >>>Well, I guess if you are after some sort of "art neuveau" crowd or something >>>maybe it is the effect you are after. >>> >>>For me, I like it simple. And the simpler the better. >> >>Actually if my site was any simpler it would be betachess.txt :) >>That is why i hide the menu's, to make it simple. >>The reason you have to enter is that there is a code which makes the window >>pop up in a certain size, this ensures that all resolutions can veiw my site. >>"art neuveau"?? what do you mean, i have no idea. >> >>Regards >>Jonas > >Actually, DC's reponse was right on target. You need to "listen" better, rather >than become defensive. I was not being defensive, just didn't quite understand what he was saying. >By simple, DC means no unnecessary techniques that you really have no >justification for using. Actually there is a justification for this: The "techniques" that i use have a purpuse, the [enter] ensures that the window pops up in the size i want it to 650x500, but i already explained this. >I don't like the [Enter] screen either. > >Too much clicking means you should not require your vistors to click on thing to >see anything. There are a couple of screens that should have presented at least >one menu right off the bat rather than having the user having to activate one. >Be something of a minimalist as far the number of clicks needed from the user to >get around and figure out what to look at. Same goes for hovering the cursor for >information. Actually this is a question of taste, not functionality, by clicking once to enter the site and hovering your curser to navigate is just as functional as anything else, but if you don't like it that's fine and i will take it into consideration. >The first screen after entering is something of puzzle that is very annoying. >Get rid of it. Also, not everybody has broadband, so the large graphic will be >slow for them. It is only 35 Kb........ less than most. >The screens that follow (rating lists, etc.) are to slow on my 800mhz athlon >with a cable modem. Well i know that they take some time to load the first time you load them, about 10 sec on a 56 k modem, but next time they should load in 2-3 secs max. >You keep using little tricks without justification. Reminds me of people who >produce a site with a large variety fonts for no good reason. Same sort of >thing. You make it sound like a conspiracy :) what do you mean exactly by "You keep using little tricks without justification" ??? I use different "tricks" to make a new approach, not to piss people off. >The following site uses an effective and simple basic design that is very >flexible that I like a lot. Visitor's are immediately presented with a lot of >summary information about what is in the site and are able to make informed >decisions about what to look at in more detail in the rest of the site: > >http://www.theregister.co.uk/ I guess we look at effective and simple in different ways :) This is one of my fav's: http://www.blitzds.com And one more: http://www.submethod.com >Another site I like is: > >http://www.sciencedaily.com/index.htm > >There is a lot more I don't like about the site, but it is not worth the trouble >pointing them out. Just remember, simple is better and I don't mean a screens >devoid of useful information. That's annoying. Well i hear what you say, but you sound like you are genuinly annoyed :) Regards Jonas
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