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Subject: Re: To win the wc of computerchess means nothing.

Author: stuart taylor

Date: 07:15:12 03/25/02

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On March 24, 2002 at 21:48:48, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On March 24, 2002 at 12:19:56, stuart taylor wrote:
>
>>On March 24, 2002 at 10:39:47, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On March 24, 2002 at 06:56:13, Michael Vox wrote:
>>>
>>>>On March 23, 2002 at 10:19:21, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Of course, that says _nothing_ about comp vs human competition...
>>>>
>>>>Shredder v Gulko 1-0
>>>>
>>>>Here are the results from SSDF, which is a statistically significant amount of
>>>>bot v bot games.
>>>>
>>>>1 Shredder 6.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz  2715
>>>>
>>>>Based on the facts I think the truth is clear :)
>>>>
>>>>Shredder 6.0 is currently the number one program in the world.  However, this
>>>>could change at some point in the future.
>>>
>>>
>>>That conclusion is so badly flawed it is almost funny.  How can you conclude
>>>that when shredder 6 has not played most of the _current_ chess programs?  And
>>>I'm not talking about the versions that the SSDF has, but the versions that
>>>each author is currently working on?
>>>
>>>No way to make such a statement and have it based on fact.  If you want to
>>>change it to "S6 is better than any engine the SSDF is testing." then it
>>>has a better chance of standing up under scrutiny.
>>
>>Isn't he talking about all released programs?
>>S.Taylor
>
>
>Shouldn't he have _stated_ that.  It simply said "number 1, period".
>
>And even then it would be wrong.  Fritz 7 has been released since the last
>WC event.  Shredder doesn't quite seem as strong based on results within the
>SSDF and elsewhere...
I thought he was refering to programs which are accesible to the public now. But
I agree that what he says does not seem exact, according to that, either.
S.Taylor



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