Author: Roy Eassa
Date: 15:43:11 04/25/02
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On April 25, 2002 at 18:40:01, Mark Young wrote: >On April 25, 2002 at 18:35:37, Roy Eassa wrote: > >>On April 25, 2002 at 18:33:30, Roy Eassa wrote: >> >>>On April 25, 2002 at 18:30:34, Mark Young wrote: >>> >>>>On April 25, 2002 at 18:24:11, Roy Eassa wrote: >>>> >>>>>On April 25, 2002 at 18:14:26, Mark Young wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On April 25, 2002 at 17:54:45, James T. Walker wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On April 25, 2002 at 17:40:43, Mark Young wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>. >>>>>>>Can you give a winning line for the final position. I would be interested in >>>>>>>seeing a win since Junior couldn't seem to find one. >>>>>>>Jim >>>>>> >>>>>>GM Smirin says the games was lost. GM Smirin offerd his resignation to Shay. >>>>>>Shay Refused the Resignation and offerd draw. GM Smirin refused to take a draw >>>>>>in a lost position.....So the game will be replayed. In short DJ won the game, >>>>>>but for reasons only known to Shay he would not take the win. IMO the win is >>>>>>valid and he should of taken the win since GM Smirin was in a dead lost >>>>>>position, the Tech problems happend after the position was dead lost for GM >>>>>>Smirin. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>It sounds like Shay offered to resign on Junior's behalf due to technical >>>>>problems, but Smirin refused the resignation. >>>> >>>>That is not what GM Smirin said on Kasparov.com....looking at what he said now >>>>in game window again....GM Smirin says Shay only offerd to count this as a >>>>draw...Shay never offerd to resign the game...why would he, Junior won. The >>>>above statement seems a correct account of what GM Smirin said on Kasparov.com. >>> >>> >>>You're right. I wonder why Shay turned down Smirin's offer to resign? >> >> >>Oops, I remember why. Junior had not shown that it knew how to win (although I >>suspect it would have found the win eventually). > >Junior knows how to win this....the game was stopped....so no more moves were >played. The win is not hard for computers....unless you can show me something I >did not see. Shay (or somebody in Junior's camp) said that Junior did not show a winning line, I think. Time was somewhat tight. With sufficient time I have no doubt any top program would find the win. On the other hand, some people say if the computer crashes it loses, period. I do not have so harsh a view.
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