Author: Uri Blass
Date: 01:29:10 05/25/02
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On May 25, 2002 at 02:11:21, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>On May 24, 2002 at 18:19:58, James T. Walker wrote:
>
>>On May 24, 2002 at 17:27:58, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>>
>>>On May 24, 2002 at 16:12:25, pavel wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 24, 2002 at 15:39:27, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On May 24, 2002 at 13:34:17, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Dear Kurt,
>>>>>
>>>>>it is true that he did not play enough games, but I did and I told that the
>>>>>Classic version is stronger.
>>>>>
>>>>>"UNFORTUNATELY SSDF FINDS TIME TO TEST SEVERAL TIGER VERSION AND NOT THE WC
>>>>>PROGRAM-:((("
>>>>>
>>>>>I sincerely did not understood this yet.
>>>>>
>>>>>Recently they stated that it is not clear which book is better, but they only
>>>>>tested the classic with the slower K2-450.
>>>>>
>>>>>This to me SOUND ONLY AS AN EXCUSE...
>>>>>
>>>>>Sorry to criticize SSDF, but I cannot lie or tell what I do not think.
>>>>>
>>>>>SSDF can you hear me?
>>>>>
>>>>>Ciao
>>>>>Sandro
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Hey Sandro,
>>>> According to Stephan Shredder7 (which will come later this year) will
>>>>be reasonably stronger over Shredder6, are you testing it?
>>>
>>>Of course, but the final version is not ready yet. We are still working on it.
>>>
>>>>If so, whats your first impression?
>>>
>>>Well, you will see the difference in a few games...
>>>
>>>Do you understand what I mean?
>>>
>>>Maybe this time we'll be lucky to see it tested in due time by SSDF:-))
>>>
>>>>
>>>>regards
>>>>pavs
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>Sandro
>>
>>When I started testing the Shredder Classic and Shredder C.B. I had no idea
>>about who wrote what book and which is stronger. My opinion is now based on my
>>results at G/5, G/30, G/60 & G/120 games. I believe your book is better than
>>the CB book simply because of the results. If the engines are really identical
>>then that is the only logical reason for Shredder 6 Classic to be doing better
>>in my test. In fact at the moment (subject to change) Shredder 6 Classic is 4
>>Elo points higher than Fritz 7 in my Standard database after only 133 games. I
>>still think Fritz 7 will end up on top but Shredder 6 Classic has been a very
>>nice surprise.
>>Jim
>
>Hi Jim,
>
>yes the engine is the same and the only difference between the 2 is the opening
>book. I am the author of the book for the classic version.
>
>Why should have we used my book in all tournaments starting from year 2000 if
>not scoring better?
>
>We won all tournaments we entered except last year WCCC where we got 3rd place,
>but first with single processor hardware.
>
>So, SSDF finds time to test several version of other programs, but not to test
>our strongest version. Maybe we could have got 1rst place. So at the end we have
>been damaged.
>This is a fact!
>
>I do not like to criticize SSDF because I know they do an important job in this
>field and I do appreciate this, but in my opinion THIS IS A SCANDAL!
>
>Why people do not say anything about this.
>Pls. tell SSDF we do not agree with this.
>
>
>Sandro
I believe that the ssdf should test only what the programmer asks them to test.
If the programmer say nothing and the program is comercial with 2 different book
they can use the book that they want.
I do not know if stefan asked the ssdf to test Shredder6 classic on Athlon1200
on time(before they start testing).
Uri
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