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Subject: Re: Chess Tiger 15 vs Fritz7

Author: stuart taylor

Date: 06:05:14 06/10/02

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On June 10, 2002 at 05:12:12, Jouni Uski wrote:

>On June 09, 2002 at 23:07:04, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On June 09, 2002 at 22:22:55, john rice wrote:
>>
>>>Hello,
>>>With Tiger 14 already so close to Fritz7 in strength, isn't it safe to assume
>>>Tiger 15 will be significantly stronger?
>>>JR
>>
>>
>>
>>Actually I'm expecting Fritz7 to fall under Chess Tiger 14 in the next SSDF
>>list. After all Fritz has already lost 20 elo points in the last list. Only 8
>>points left, and Tiger 14 is back at the top spot. :)
>>
>>Then why release Tiger 15? :) :)
>>
>>Just kidding of course. Fritz7 is a terrific engine and Frans has done as usual
>>a great job. We will see if Tiger 15 can do better. I hope so, but who knows?
>>
>>
>>
>>    Christophe
>
>You are really a honest man - no standard bullshit about >50 points
>improvements...
>
>Jouni

Yes, he IS. It seems to be a principle by him. Sometimes it's humorously modest.
I really do hope that Tiger 15 will clearly edge out everything previous,
including Fritz, but I also get the feeling that Fritz has edged out all others
which are below it. Yes there are others which are very close, but I see, also
from other tests at other time levels (and non ssdf) that Fritz seems to be a
clear leader, so that if you have only one program and you want to get the
truest analysis of a position from a program, then the latest Fritz is the
answer.

The only problem I did feel about Fritz 7 at the beginning, was that when
matched with Junior 7, Junior always crushed Fritz in the first few games, until
Fritz recovered and overtook it. So I thought that Fritz was only good because
of the learning feature. It WAS strange to me.
No one ever answered that up to me.
S.Taylor



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