Author: Daniel Clausen
Date: 03:25:57 07/08/02
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On July 08, 2002 at 02:28:03, Slater Wold wrote: >On July 08, 2002 at 00:32:42, Christophe Theron wrote: > >>On July 06, 2002 at 20:15:06, stuart taylor wrote: >> >>> >>>> >>>>I suspect that search may see that the right move help to push the opponent king >>>>closer to the corner relative to the wrong moves and it may be enough. >>>> >>>>Uri >>> >>>Yes, that looks like the best thing to try and work on, doesn't it? >>> >>>If not, can I ask two questions?: >>>1)What should be done during the near future to push computer elo forward as >>>much as possible? >>>2)If Deeper blue was really much stronger than todays tops, what was that due >>>to? Better long-term planning? Seeing deeper? >>>S.Taylor >> >> >>Huge speed. >> >>It was doing most things worse than the best micro programs, but it was doing it >>so fast that it was eventually stronger. >> >>Hum... Let me rephrase for the sensitive people out there. There was nothing >>Deep Blue did better than the best micro programs. But it was so fast that it >>allowed it to hide its defficiencies. >> >>Shit. That's not very diplomatic either. Let's try again: Deep Blue was build >>around a concept outdated by 2 decades but fortunately it was so fast that >>nobody noticed until their creators published their paper. >> >>Oops... OK, once again: >> >>Bob likes Deep Blue a lot, and that should be a reason good enough to convince >>you that it was well designed. >> >> >> >> Christophe ;-) > >I too am a DB fan. Just like Bob. > >But I actually agree with you here. I don't think DB did anything >*spectacular*. > >But I also know that Program X will be a _LOT_ stronger on hardware 100,000x >times faster than anyone else has. No matter how horrible the software side is. Sheesh, you guys! Of course they did something spectacular! But it's the software/hardware package that plays chess, not just the software alone! And they didn't buy the hardware around the corner, as you do with your PC. They designed it! It's obvious that you guys seem to honour work in the software more than work in the hardware. Adding feature X in the software is something great, but designing DB's hardware which was Y time faster (Y being 200 and more) is "just faster hardware". A bit unfair. :) Sargon
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