Author: Eduard Nemeth
Date: 15:41:11 07/12/02
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On July 12, 2002 at 18:07:16, John Merlino wrote:
>On July 12, 2002 at 18:00:04, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>
>>On July 12, 2002 at 17:52:53, John Merlino wrote:
>>
>>>On July 12, 2002 at 17:12:45, Mustafa wrote:
>>>
>>>>as i saw games of Nemth and from this position no engine can beat a good human
>>>>chess player here is the main position...
>>>>
>>>>[D]r2q1rk1/p2b1pp1/2nb4/1pp1pPPQ/3pP3/1P4NN/P1P3P1/R3KB1R b KQ - 0 16
>>>>
>>>>now a good 1900 player here can white by white no program as black can stop the
>>>>win even fritz 7 try people any program Black will lose the game try as much as
>>>>u want.....
>>>
>>>This position is already lost, so what's the point? As a matter of fact,
>>>Chessmaster 9000 announces Mate in 11 after 1:27 on my PIII-600:
>>>
>>>Time Depth Score Positions Moves
>>>0:00 1/3 -1.99 2996 16...Qa5+ 17.Kf2 Qc3 18.Bd3 Nb4
>>>0:00 1/4 -1.73 10317 16...Qa5+ 17.Kf2 Qc3 18.Bd3 g6
>>> 19.Qh6 Nb4
>>>0:01 1/5 0.00 72073 16...Qa5+ 17.Kd1 Qc3 18.Nf4 Qxa1+
>>> 19.Kd2 Qc3+ 20.Kd1 f6 21.Qh8+ Kf7
>>> 22.Qh5+ Kg8
>>>0:02 1/6 2.60 174619 16...Qa5+ 17.Kd1 g6 18.fxg6 Bg4+
>>> 19.Qxg4 Qc3 20.Rc1 a6 21.Qh5
>>>0:09 1/7 2.92 617517 16...Qa5+ 17.Kd1 g6 18.fxg6 Bg4+
>>> 19.Qxg4 Ne7 20.Nf5 Nxf5 21.Qxf5 Qc3
>>>0:28 1/8 17.73 2411472 16...Qa5+ 17.Kd1 f6 18.g6 Rfe8
>>> 19.Nf4 Kf8 20.Nd5 Be6 21.Qh8+ Bg8
>>> 22.Nxf6 Nb8 23.Qxg8+ Ke7 24.Qxe8+
>>> Kxf6 25.Rh5 Qd2+ 26.Kxd2
>>>1:27 1/9 Mate11 6820409 16...Qa5+ 17.Kd1 f6 18.g6 Rfe8
>>> 19.Nf4 Kf8 20.Nd5 Be6 21.Qh8+ Bg8
>>> 22.Nxf6 Nb8 23.Qxg8+ Ke7 24.Qxe8+
>>> Kxf6 25.Rh5 Qd2+ 26.Kxd2 Bc7 27.Qf7#
>>>2:17 1/10 Mate11 10941905 16...Qa5+ 17.Kd1 f6 18.g6 Rfe8
>>> 19.Nf4 Kf8 20.Nd5 Be6 21.Qh8+ Bg8
>>> 22.Nxf6 Nb8 23.Qxg8+ Ke7 24.Qxe8+
>>> Kxf6 25.Rh5 Qd2+ 26.Kxd2 Bc7 27.Qf7#
>>>
>>>So I would say that, by your definition, an even MORE perfect position, and one
>>>that you should REALLY strive for when playing a computer, would be this one
>>>(for example):
>>>
>>>[D]rn6/p5p1/3bQkP1/1pp1pP1R/4P3/1P1p2N1/P1PK2P1/R4B2 b - -
>>>
>>>jm
>>
>>Yes, the Chessmaster is in tactical positions the BEST program, an the CM see
>>ever (german: immer) first all such mates!
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Eduard
>
>Thank you for saying so. However, were you not also able to beat Chessmaster
>using the same methods as against all the other programs?
>
>jm
Hello Jim,
I have only the Chessmaster 6000. But I know that the CM 8000 play better than
CM 6000 with the best settings. CM 8000 won on the Fritz 7 server one CSS
Tournament with M. Pillen settings (I think)!
ok.
here 3 from my games against CM 6000, CM6555:
[Event "Blitz30',64Mb,P600"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2001.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Nemeth, E."]
[Black "CM6555"]
[ECO "C26"]
[Result "1-0"]
1. e4 Nf6 2. Nc3 e5 3. h4 Bb4 4. a3 Bxc3 5. dxc3 d6 6. Bd3
O-O 7. Bg5 h6 8. Nh3 hxg5 9. hxg5 Bg4 10. f3 Bxh3 11. Rxh3
Nfd7 12. f4 g6 13. Qg4 Kg7 14. f5 Rg8 15. Rh7+ Kf8 16. Bc4
d5 17. Bxd5 Nc5 18. O-O-O Qd7 19. Rxf7+ Qxf7 20. Bxf7 Kxf7
21. fxg6+ Ke7 22. Qf5 Rf8 23. Qxe5+ Ne6 24. g7 Nd7
25. gxf8=Q+ Rxf8 26. Qd5 Nb6 27. Qxb7 Rg8 28. Rh1 Rg7
29. Qxa7 Rxg5 30. Rh7+ Kd6 31. Rxc7 Nxc7 32. Qxb6+ Kd7
33. Qd4+ Kc8 34. Qd2 Rg4 35. Qe2 Rg7 36. Qf3 Rg5 37. Qf5+
Rxf5 38. exf5 Kd7 39. a4 Ke7 40. b4 Kf6 41. g4 Nd5 42. a5
Nxc3 43. a6 Nb5 44. c4 Na7 45. b5 Nc8 46. a7 Nxa7 47. b6
Nc6 48. b7 Kg5 49. Kd2 Kf6 50. Ke3 Ke5 51. Kf2 Nb8 52. Kg3
Nd7 53. Kh4 Kf6 54. Kh5 Ke5 55. Kg6 Kd6 56. Kg7 Kc7 57. f6
Kxb7 58. c5 Nxc5 59. g5 Kc6 60. f7 Ne6+ 61. Kf6 Kd6 62. g6
Kd5 63. g7 Nxg7 64. Kxg7 Kd4 65. f8=Q 1-0
[Event "Blitz30',64Mb,P600"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2001.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Nemeth, E."]
[Black "CM6555"]
[ECO "B21"]
[Result "1-0"]
1. e4 c5 2. d4 cxd4 3. h3 Nc6 4. Bc4 Nf6 5. Na3 Nxe4
6. Bxf7+ Kxf7 7. Qh5+ Ke6 8. Qg4+ Kd5 9. c4+ dxc3 10. f3
Nd6 11. Ne2 Nb8 12. Bf4 Kc6 13. Bxd6 Kxd6 14. Nb5+ Kc6
15. Qc4+ Kb6 16. Nexc3 e6 17. Na4+ Ka5 18. Nbc3 Qb6
19. Nxb6 Kxb6 20. Qxc8 1-0
[Event "Blitz30' Stuttgart"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "2001.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Nemeth, Eduard"]
[Black "CM6000"]
[ECO "B23"]
[Result "1-0"]
1. e4 {64MB, Nimzo8.ctg. P600} c5 2. Nc3 Nc6 3. d3 e6
4. Bd2 d5 5. b3 Nf6 6. g3 d4 7. Nb1 Bd6 8. h4 O-O 9. Bg5 h6
10. Nh3 hxg5 11. hxg5 Qa5+ 12. Nd2 Nh7 13. Qh5 g6 14. Qh6
Qc7 15. Nf4 f6 16. Nxg6 Rf7 17. f4 fxg5 18. e5 Bf8 19. Nxf8
Rxf8 20. Ne4 gxf4 21. gxf4 Qg7 22. Qh2 Qe7 23. O-O-O Rf7
24. Be2 Kh8 25. Nf6 Bd7 26. Rdg1 Nxe5 27. fxe5 Bc6 28. Qg3
Rxf6 29. exf6 Qxf6 30. Rxh7+ Kxh7 31. Qc7+ Bd7 32. Qxd7+
Kh8 33. Rh1+ Kg8 34. Qh7+ Kf8 35. Rf1 Qxf1+ 36. Bxf1 1-0
Here it was not Nimzo-book (I saved only the game under Fritz). I plays under
GUI from CM 6000.
Regards,
Eduard
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