Author: John Merlino
Date: 15:07:16 07/12/02
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On July 12, 2002 at 18:00:04, Eduard Nemeth wrote: >On July 12, 2002 at 17:52:53, John Merlino wrote: > >>On July 12, 2002 at 17:12:45, Mustafa wrote: >> >>>as i saw games of Nemth and from this position no engine can beat a good human >>>chess player here is the main position... >>> >>>[D]r2q1rk1/p2b1pp1/2nb4/1pp1pPPQ/3pP3/1P4NN/P1P3P1/R3KB1R b KQ - 0 16 >>> >>>now a good 1900 player here can white by white no program as black can stop the >>>win even fritz 7 try people any program Black will lose the game try as much as >>>u want..... >> >>This position is already lost, so what's the point? As a matter of fact, >>Chessmaster 9000 announces Mate in 11 after 1:27 on my PIII-600: >> >>Time Depth Score Positions Moves >>0:00 1/3 -1.99 2996 16...Qa5+ 17.Kf2 Qc3 18.Bd3 Nb4 >>0:00 1/4 -1.73 10317 16...Qa5+ 17.Kf2 Qc3 18.Bd3 g6 >> 19.Qh6 Nb4 >>0:01 1/5 0.00 72073 16...Qa5+ 17.Kd1 Qc3 18.Nf4 Qxa1+ >> 19.Kd2 Qc3+ 20.Kd1 f6 21.Qh8+ Kf7 >> 22.Qh5+ Kg8 >>0:02 1/6 2.60 174619 16...Qa5+ 17.Kd1 g6 18.fxg6 Bg4+ >> 19.Qxg4 Qc3 20.Rc1 a6 21.Qh5 >>0:09 1/7 2.92 617517 16...Qa5+ 17.Kd1 g6 18.fxg6 Bg4+ >> 19.Qxg4 Ne7 20.Nf5 Nxf5 21.Qxf5 Qc3 >>0:28 1/8 17.73 2411472 16...Qa5+ 17.Kd1 f6 18.g6 Rfe8 >> 19.Nf4 Kf8 20.Nd5 Be6 21.Qh8+ Bg8 >> 22.Nxf6 Nb8 23.Qxg8+ Ke7 24.Qxe8+ >> Kxf6 25.Rh5 Qd2+ 26.Kxd2 >>1:27 1/9 Mate11 6820409 16...Qa5+ 17.Kd1 f6 18.g6 Rfe8 >> 19.Nf4 Kf8 20.Nd5 Be6 21.Qh8+ Bg8 >> 22.Nxf6 Nb8 23.Qxg8+ Ke7 24.Qxe8+ >> Kxf6 25.Rh5 Qd2+ 26.Kxd2 Bc7 27.Qf7# >>2:17 1/10 Mate11 10941905 16...Qa5+ 17.Kd1 f6 18.g6 Rfe8 >> 19.Nf4 Kf8 20.Nd5 Be6 21.Qh8+ Bg8 >> 22.Nxf6 Nb8 23.Qxg8+ Ke7 24.Qxe8+ >> Kxf6 25.Rh5 Qd2+ 26.Kxd2 Bc7 27.Qf7# >> >>So I would say that, by your definition, an even MORE perfect position, and one >>that you should REALLY strive for when playing a computer, would be this one >>(for example): >> >>[D]rn6/p5p1/3bQkP1/1pp1pP1R/4P3/1P1p2N1/P1PK2P1/R4B2 b - - >> >>jm > >Yes, the Chessmaster is in tactical positions the BEST program, an the CM see >ever (german: immer) first all such mates! > >Thanks, > >Eduard Thank you for saying so. However, were you not also able to beat Chessmaster using the same methods as against all the other programs? jm
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