Author: Thorsten Czub
Date: 08:16:27 08/14/98
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On August 14, 1998 at 09:50:17, Dirk Frickenschmidt wrote: >Hi Thorsten, > >I regard your behavior concerning me as inacceptable. > >You wrote to Enrique Irazoqui: >>there was no compain against chessBase. >>Dirk has worked for chessbase before. Moritz does. >>You are all working for chessBase. >>I am not interested if you get money or not. >>But that you all call me doing a campaign AGAINST chessBase looks >>a little suspicious for 3 people working for chessbase, doesn't it ?! > >I regard your style here as extremely disgusting. > >We know each other since many years. true. >I openly discussed matters of computer chess with you in quite a private and >trustful manner over all this time. exactly. > We oftend exchanged views on phone, yup. >joked >and laughed together. "julio's bauernstrukturen" - yes ! :-)) >I cannot remember I ever treated you unfair. right. >Now I realize that it is more important for you to keep your hatred and low >estimation towards Fritz5 and Chessbase persons than keep the respect I regard >as fundamental for any personal relationship. against which person of chessBase did i said HERE anything negative ?! I cannot remember anything in the last days. Maybe you think to much in a clichee dirk. >When we had different Fritz5 results and got discussions about it on CCC I >finally phoned you and we agreed to exchange results and evaluations without any >prejudice. I don't remember this ... long time ago. MAy be. Whatever. It is not important. >This was my effort keep our releation in a fair way, although >you had uttered lots of negatively generalizing, very emotional and from my view >in part completely childish and unqualified remarks about SSDF and Chessbase >(members). I ignored the strange tone and style of some of these postings for >the sake of our friendship. And when you began your new tournament I wrote >greetings to you and wished you fun. I never doubted your integrity concerning >testing chess programs. this is old stuff dirk, what do you want. Talk in public about old times ?! What is your point ?! As i said: i did not throw mud on any chessBase guy. All i said was: you, moritz and enrique work for chessBase. Why do you come now again and again with the old stuff. What shall this end up here ?! Do you want to provoke something ? Please concentrate on computerchess. >Now I see you telling everybody I should have "worked for chessbase" (whatever >you wish to say this way) in a context clearly indicating that Enrique, Moritz >and I would not write in any objective way about Fritz5, because we were >connected to closely with Chessbase. I cannot tell you how to interpret my words. If you want to read it this way, you can do so. All i said was, that you, moritz and enrique work for chessBase. You quoted the passage, so you should be KNOW what i wrote. I can see no wrong statement in my post. It is fact that you worked for chessBase. It is fact that Moritz works for CB. I see no reason that this statement should be taken by you as insult. If you want to read it this way... ok. But don't try to avoke here, that I have thrown mud on people from chessBase. All i wanted to make clear is, that the people having very good results are closely connected to chessBase. This is known to me, known to my friends. But maybe not known to the readers of this group. >1. This forces me to put some of your dirty allusions clear. Nothing I said was dirty. This is an insult Dirk. >a) You raise a completely wrong impression about me as "having worked for >Chessbase", Why ? Read the passage you quoted. There is no IMPRESSION in my passage. >knowing very well that people will have completely wrong phantasies >about your allusion. It is not up to me to stop people from having phantasies. I am not in charge for people's phanatasies. Do you really want to make me in charge for their minds ?! >Fact is: I liked Fritz2 for its agressive style and then wrote an agressive >little opening book for it for private fun. Chessbase asked me if they could use >this book, and I saw no reason to deny it. I never was on their payroll. >b) I know Matthias Wuellenweber since the first days when he developed the first >Chessbase version. As I often told you, I have a lot respect for him. This >respect has never prevented me from telling him or others what I like about >Chessbase and what not. Despite of many discussions with him (some of them sharp >in content though never in tone) I never experienced such a dirty style from him >as you perform it now. I have no dirty style. I was talking with amir and christophe when this "mark young" came, and later enrique and your moritz, and this great trio attacked me for nothing. Also they came with strange old stuff about chessBase. I did not talked about chessBase. Keep you facts straight. >Of course I cannot repair the damage you try to put to my integrity here in >public. This works like "Etwas bleibt immer haengen", as you very well know. >Low "Bild-Zeitungs" level. I would never write similar things about more than >one very close realtionships (*much* closer than I ever had any) you had to some >chess programmers and their products over the years. I have not talked about you. Not about moritz nor enrique. They came with statements that tried to damage my integrety or wanted to wash dirty clothes. >2. I may be in part helpless against this kind of public dirty allusions. I am as well helpless when your friends come up with strange stories and others call me liars. Thats life dirk. >But I can easily get rid of "friends" who act worse than enemies. >So please be so kind and regard our relationship as finished. :-)) Whatever you want dirk. >I am not interested in it any more. What is the sense of writing this in public dirk ? Is it about computerchess ?! Is it about any topic of this newsgroup ? Do what you want. And continue your good for for chessbase and computerchess...:-))
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