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Subject: Re: Which engine finds Ng5+ ?

Author: Terry Ripple

Date: 00:23:43 09/02/02

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On September 01, 2002 at 00:18:00, Steffen Jakob wrote:

>Hi,
>
>usually programmers don't post positions of their own games (except Vincent ;)
>for good reasons. Yesterday I played a bullet (!) game at ICC in which I saced a
>knight which won that game. After the game I wanted to find out if this was
>correct. Usually this isn't the case. Fritz didn't consider my move, but after a
>post mortem analysis (also with the help of Alex Kure) I think that Ng5+ leads
>to the most convincing winning line in this positions.
>
>Please start your engines/brains, gentlemen!
>
>[D]r1b2r2/pp1p1p1k/1qn2Ppp/5p2/3p4/3B1N2/PPPQ1PPP/R3R1K1 w - - 0 1
>
>Here is the analysis:
>
>[Event "ICC 1 0"]
>[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
>[Date "2002.08.31"]
>[White "Yobes"]
>[Black "N.N."]
>[Result "1-0"]
>[ICCResult "Black checkmated"]
>[WhiteElo "1603"]
>[BlackElo "1503"]
>[Opening "Robatsch (modern) defense"]
>[SetUp "1"]
>[FEN "r1b2r2/pp1p1p1k/1qn2Ppp/5p2/3p4/3B1N2/PPPQ1PPP/R3R1K1 w - - 0 1"]
>[Time "14:44:28"]
>[TimeControl "60+0"]
>
>1. Ng5+ hxg5 (1... Kg8 2. Nxf7 Kxf7 (2... Rxf7 3. Qxh6 Qd8 4. Qxg6+ Kf8 5. Qh6+
>Kg8 6. Bc4 $18) 3. Qxh6 Rg8 4. Bc4+ $18) 2. Qxg5 Nb4 (2... Rh8 {This move was
>played in the actual game.} 3. Qh4+ Kg8 4.
>Re8#) (2... d5 3. Qh4+ Kg8 4. Qh6 $18) (2... Nd8 3. Bxf5 Ne6 4. Qh4+ Kg8 5. Qh6
>$18) (2... Qd8 3. Bxf5 Rh8 4. Re4 Kg8 5. Bxg6 $18) 3. Re5 {
>The threat is Qh4+ Kg8 Rxf5.} Nxd3 (3... d5 4. Bxf5 Bxf5 5. Qh4+ Kg8 6. Rxf5
>$18) 4. Qh4+ Kg8 5. Rxf5 Nc5 6. Rh5 $18 1-0
>
>Greetings,
>Steffen.
---------------------
Hello again Steffen,
I checked your problem once again, but with "Deep Fritz" and found out why you
didn't find the solution with this engine. It wasn't because your pc is slow
,but because Deep Fritz can't find the correct answer(Ng5+)and as a matter of
fact it couldn't find it in 2 hours! What do you say to that? It can't do what
it's brother Fritz 7 could do!

Regards,
      Terry

New position
r1b2r2/pp1p1p1k/1qn2Ppp/5p2/3p4/3B1N2/PPPQ1PPP/R3R1K1 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Deep Fritz:

1.c3 dxc3 2.Qxc3 d5 3.Rac1
  ²  (0.41)   depth: 4/11   00:00:00  3kN
1.Rab1
  =  (0.19)   depth: 5/14   00:00:00  9kN
1.Rab1
  =  (0.19)   depth: 5/14   00:00:00  9kN
1.Rab1
  =  (0.19)   depth: 5/14   00:00:00  9kN
1.Rab1
  =  (0.19)   depth: 5/14   00:00:00  9kN
1.Rab1
  =  (0.19)   depth: 5/14   00:00:00  9kN
1.Rab1
  =  (0.19)   depth: 5/14   00:00:00  9kN
1.Rab1
  =  (0.19)   depth: 5/14   00:00:00  9kN
1.Rab1
  =  (0.19)   depth: 5/14   00:00:00  9kN
1.Rab1
  =  (0.19)   depth: 5/14   00:00:00  9kN
1.Rab1
  =  (0.19)   depth: 5/14   00:00:00  9kN
1.Rab1
  =  (0.19)   depth: 5/14   00:00:00  9kN
1.Rab1
  =  (0.19)   depth: 5/14   00:00:00  9kN
1.Rab1
  =  (0.19)   depth: 5/14   00:00:00  9kN
1.Rab1
  =  (0.19)   depth: 5/14   00:00:00  9kN
1.Rab1
  =  (0.19)   depth: 5/14   00:00:00  9kN
1.Rab1
  =  (0.19)   depth: 5/14   00:00:00  9kN
1.Rab1
  =  (0.19)   depth: 5/14   00:00:00  9kN
1.Rab1 Qd8 2.Qf4 Qxf6 3.Rbd1
  ²  (0.28)   depth: 5/14   00:00:00  12kN
1.Rab1 Qd8 2.Rbd1 d5 3.c4 dxc4 4.Bxc4 Qxf6
  =  (0.25)   depth: 6/15   00:00:00  27kN
1.Rab1 Qd8 2.Rbd1 d5 3.Bb5 Qxf6 4.Nxd4 Nxd4
  =  (0.25)   depth: 7/17   00:00:00  78kN
1.Rab1 Qd8 2.Rbd1 d5 3.Bb5 Qxf6 4.Nxd4 Nxd4 5.Qxd4 Qxd4
  =  (0.25)   depth: 8/18   00:00:01  173kN
1.Qf4
  ²  (0.28)   depth: 8/21   00:00:01  226kN
1.Qf4 Qxb2 2.Qh4 h5 3.Bxf5 d5 4.Ng5+ Kg8 5.Bd3
  ²  (0.38)   depth: 8/21   00:00:02  247kN
1.Qf4 Qxb2 2.Qh4 h5 3.Bxf5 Kg8 4.Bd3 d5 5.Rad1 Qxa2
  ²  (0.56)   depth: 9/23   00:00:04  530kN
1.Qf4 Qxb2 2.Qh4 h5 3.Bxf5 Kg8 4.Qg5 Nd8 5.Bd3 Qc3
  ±  (0.75)   depth: 10/26   00:00:11  1390kN
1.Qf4 d5 2.Qh4 h5 3.Rab1 Kg8 4.Qg3 Nb4 5.Qe5
  ±  (0.75)   depth: 11/28   00:00:21  2652kN
1.Qf4 d5 2.Qh4 h5 3.Rab1 Kg8 4.a3 Be6 5.Qg5 Kh7
  ±  (0.91)   depth: 12/32   00:01:08  8741kN
1.Qf4 d5 2.Qh4 h5 3.g4 Nb4 4.gxh5 g5 5.Qxd4
  ±  (0.97)   depth: 13/37   00:03:37  29037kN
1.Qf4 d5 2.Qh4 h5 3.g4 Nb4 4.gxh5 g5 5.Qxd4 Qxd4 6.Nxd4
  ±  (0.94)   depth: 14/39   00:08:57  70896kN
1.Qf4
  ±  (1.25)   depth: 15/36   00:24:37  187225kN
1.Qf4 Nb4 2.Qh4 Kg8 3.Re5 d5 4.Bxf5 Qd6 5.Bd3 Bd7
  +-  (1.66)   depth: 15/46   00:54:58  430995kN
1.Qf4 Qd8 2.Qh4 Rh8 3.Bc4 Kg8 4.Re2
  +-  (1.69)   depth: 16/43   02:01:39  1026448kN




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