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Subject: Re: AMD new 2.8 Ghz, but has not yet released the 2.6 Ghz ?

Author: Slater Wold

Date: 21:28:18 10/03/02

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On October 03, 2002 at 12:50:41, Aaron Gordon wrote:

>>I think if you believe for one second the largest CPU manufacturer in the world
>>is going to let a company with 2 or 3 fabs take over it's business, you're
>>smoking something too.  ;)
>
>I'm not saying they're going to flood they market and put Intel out of business
>at all. I'm saying the chip they're producing is much better.

They couldn't flood the market, even if they wanted to.

It's a simple fact that Intel CPUs outsale AMD CPUs.  Right, wrong, or
indifferent.  A few more quarters of AMD being $100M off, and there will be no
more AMD.

AMD has come a long way.  Way back when they were compared to Cyrix, and Intel
was in a league of its own.  Where is Cyrix now?  And where is AMD?

They make a great CPU.  The best on the market IMO.  However 'IMO' means very
little to investors.

>Intel will of course find new ways to BS people. Whether it's with them trying
>to make people think a new CPU is going to increase their internet performance
>as they've tried in the past or ramping up clock speeds while providing poor
>performance. I'm positive Intel will continue to lie, buy people off, influence
>review pages so they provide favorable reviews, etc. Intel will be around for
>some time no doubt but as I've said in the past on many occasions... you can
>only BS people for so long.

This is beside the point Aaron.  You like to spread this around like it's the
gospel, and plain and simply, it's business.

How many Fortune 500 companies "BS people"?  I would bet 90% of them.

I have a close friend who is a writer for Car & Driver.  Want to know what he
drives?  Want to know who paid for it?  Want to know if it got a good review?
Want to know how many automobile companies have lined his pockets?  It's
business.  And it's pretty much accepted practice.

I like AMD.  I use AMD.  I have 3 computers, all AMD.  I recommend AMD.  But I
know who's winning the CPU war, and it isn't AMD.

And it's not because Intel "lies to people, buys off people, and influence
review pages".  Perhaps, if you were to break it down, maybe 5% of all market
share goes to Intel because of "shady business".  Last time I saw, Intel had AMD
beat by almost a 40% market share.  It just keeps people in check.  I doubt
anyone has ever made the sole desicion to purchase a CPU because of a review on
Tomshardware.com, or because Intel says it'll make their internet faster.

Anyway, I hope you don't misunderstand me here.  I am praying I don't get a
"...go back to high school.." reply.  I am simply saying 2 things;

1.) AMD is losing.  No matter how much better they are.

2.) You should let a product win its own battle, by comparing CPUs, not
companies.  This only makes you look more desperate to compensate the difference
in sales.



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