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Subject: Re: impact of early queen exchange on performance

Author: Ricardo Gibert

Date: 13:58:46 10/09/02

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On October 09, 2002 at 15:36:13, Mike S. wrote:

>On October 09, 2002 at 14:23:03, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>(...)
>>I've given some examples of things I've had to fix after watching GMs pick on
>>the same hole
>>over and over.  Today I don't see those huge holes cause me a lot of trouble
>>(yes I still have
>>holes, to be sure, but not the building-sized holes some "tactical" programs
>>possess..) and I
>>don't particularly care if queens come off early or not. (...)
>
>I've added Crafty 18.x results from the same database:
>
>Percentages, based on a large comp-comp database:
>
>Engine          | #Games   total  W    B  | total eQE* W/eQE   B/eQE
>-------------------------------------------------------------------
>Fritz 7         |  784      69%  72%  65% | 59% (#57)   53%     67%
>Chess Tiger 14  |  850      66%  71%  62% | 72% (#71)   73%     71%
>Shredder 6/-P.  |  743      61%  65%  57% | 58% (#58)   63%     53%
>Junior 7        |  799      55%  58%  53% | 41% (#60)   25% !   56%
>Crafty 18.x     |  741      48%  48%  47% | 51% (#52)   51%     52%
>
>*) "eQE" = early queen exchange (within the first 10 moves)
>
>This illustrates precisely what you wrote. The eQE obviously is no threat at all
>for Crafty :o). The percentages are a bit higher even, similar to Tiger's, which
>indicates the good endgame strength (of both).


Or the other interpretation is that with a roughly 50% score, Crafty is merely
average among chess engines in the ending.

Like I indicated in my other post, you can't really draw any reasonable
conclusions from these statistics. Too many variables are unaccounted for.


>
>(Btw. the games were against a bandwith of engines including i.e. various other
>top engines and freeware, not only the ones mentioned.)
>
>I think the strength of Fritz in tactics / king attack could compensate for the
>lesser good endgame strength, if only Kramnik would not be able to exchange
>queens during the book variants already, always. But I don't know if an opening
>book could be built, which strictly avoids variants with early queen exchanges.
>Maybe for the next match :o).
>
>For engines playing Black, an anti-fritz (and anti-junior) book which favours
>variants with queen exchanges would also be interesting IMO. I didn't find a way
>to generate such a book automatically (probably impossible "the easy way",
>because the exchanges are not directly related with the results, and also such a
>book must not have big holes in other "non-exchange" variants...)
>
>Regards
>M.Scheidl



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