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Subject: Re: to our conspiracy theorists

Author: Bob Durrett

Date: 08:03:07 10/20/02

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On October 20, 2002 at 10:05:30, Uri Blass wrote:

>On October 20, 2002 at 08:56:52, Thorsten Czub wrote:
>
>>On October 20, 2002 at 08:04:18, Janosch Zwerensky wrote:
>>
>>>Hi all,
>>>
>>>suppose Kramnik deliberately threw the match against DF. How do you think then
>>>did he make sure that Kasparov won't just smash Deep Junior in december, which
>>>no doubt would now cause interest in Kramnik as an anti-computer-player to drop
>>>considerably?
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Janosch
>>
>>your mistake is that you believe those kind of "matches"
>>are real fights. since the beginning of computerchess,
>>those matches had only one GOAL: the company pays the chess-player
>>for having a marketing event.
>>
>>the chess player is only a paid instrument.
>
>Since the beginning of computer chess?
>
>About what matches do you talk?
>The first match that I know about is david levy against a computer in 1978 when
>david levy won a bet that no computer could win him in that year.
>
>I also know about matches when humans won convincingly(see the match of Smirin
>against the machines when smirin won 5-3 in faster time control).
>
>>
>>therefore he must create a good show.
>>
>>it would not be a good show if ONE side would win very good.
>
>I think that it is going to be a good show if one side wins.1

Doubtless, all chessplayers would have been very happy if Kramnik had played
fantastic brilliancies in every game!

Unfortunately, the inescapable conclusion would have been that "chess computers
are just not up there yet."  A rematch would then have been seen as pointless,
at least until the computers had become better.  Why rematch if the outcome is
already known in advance?

Similarly, if Fritz had smashed Kramnik.  People would say that a rematch would
be pointless because it was clear that the computer would win again.

Bob D.


>
>I think that the prize of the winner should be to be invited to another match.
>It does not make sense to give Kramnik a prize of another match after failing to
>win against Fritz.
>
>I think that a match of smirin against Fritz may be more interesting than
>another match of kramnik against Fritz.
>
>Kramnik should get the right to play against Fritz only if smirin is going to
>lose against Fritz.
>>
>>therefore you have (as far as i remember) in all those
>>show-events a strange behaviour of the human chess player
>>in a certain situation.
>
>
>In all those show events?
>
>I know only 2 events with strange mistakes of the human chess
>player(kramnik-Fritz and Deeper blue-kasparov).
>
>Did you see strange behaviour in the match of Fritz against Heubner or in the
>matches of Rebel against GM's?
>
>Uri



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