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Subject: Re: Did Kramnik make it difficult for Kasparov?

Author: Roy Eassa

Date: 10:57:46 10/27/02

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On October 27, 2002 at 11:46:12, Sune Fischer wrote:

>On October 27, 2002 at 00:52:27, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On October 26, 2002 at 18:35:30, Yatheen Manicka wrote:
>>
>>>It seems to that the recently completed match in Bahrain has made things much
>>>more difficult for Kasparov in his match v Deep Junior in December.
>>>Deep Fritz demonstrated through trial and error how to play "anti-human" chess
>>>vs a GM, eg.,keep queens on the board and avoid positional maneuvering.
>>
>>I do not believe that it is possible to
>>keep queens on the board and avoid positional maneuvering.
>>
>>Kramnik demonstrated mistakes that are not typical for him.
>>
>>In the match against Fritz he did 2 mistakes of one ply.
>>losing a piece and sacrificing a piece.
>
>Why do you call the sacrifice a 1 ply mistake? He thought about that move
>for 45 minutes. He took a chance, he had already shown he was superior in the
>quiet positions, I think he got bored and wanted to show he could play some
>exciting chess, and do it better then fritz too!
>


I agree, it was not a 1-ply error.


>It probably wasn't a very good match strategy, since he was only leading by 1
>point at the time, but like he said - it could have been the game of his life,
>so he had to try it! ;)
>


It's THAT attitude of "What the heck, I'll take a risk and try this" that caused
Larry C. to lose his match and that I expected Kramnik NOT to fall into.

He almost surely would have won (and saved 45 minutes on his clock!) if he had
played the fairly obvious Bd5 instead, which even Fritz acknowledges leaves
White clearly better.  But he gave into temptation, betraying his style.


>I doubt you or anyone else could, at the time, say it was a mistake. In
>hindsight things are always painfully clear. It was a bad decision perhaps, but
>not a blunder.
>
>I still believe humans are better when they play their best (as Kramnik showed
>clearly in the first 3 games), but one must acknowledge other aspects like
>concentration and confidence play a role too.
>
>-S.
>>He never played similiar errors in all the last serious
>>games against humans except one against anand
>>when he sacrificed a piece for not enough compensation.
>>
>>Even about the game against anand I read that people claim
>>that kramnik had no good choice(I do not
>>know if they are right because I am not a GM
>>and I cannot trust my impression or the impression of
>>computers as the absulute truth)
>>
>>Uri



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