Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 07:34:37 09/15/98
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On September 15, 1998 at 09:52:51, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: >On September 15, 1998 at 09:29:10, Moritz Berger wrote: > >>On September 15, 1998 at 08:26:59, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: >> >>>On September 15, 1998 at 06:57:00, Kai Lübke wrote: >>> >>>>I usually set an initial rating of "Louguet II result + 100". >>>>Junior 5 got 2480 on the Louguet suite. I know this does not mean much, >>>>but it's the best thing I have so far. >>> >>>I don't think you are so far off. Junior 5 might very well be that high or >>>higher on the SSDF scale. Quite an impressive program... >>> >>>Enrique >> >>I can only confirm Enrique's estimate, I also think that Junior 5 is about a >>strong as Fritz 5. > >I think it might be stronger. And I find it more interesting and much more even: >better positional play, better endgames... Not quite as quick, but almost. It's >a really smooth program. > >>Moritz I think it is a program that is difficult to evaluate. It is really killing other programs on ICC. Yet I also watched it lose 2 and draw 1 game vs a well-known IM there (cptnbluebeard in a single 3 game match. Granted, 3 games is not much of a sample, but it simply got rolled up on king-side attacks in both of the losses, and if it had been running in an automatic mode it probably would have lost several more. This is a common attacking style that takes some work to solve, which is why I think the auto-interface to a server is so important. Because then you can't stop a match after getting smacked twice, you have to stop getting smacked instead. So, an interesting question for discussion is "what makes Junior so very strong vs computers and yet fall to a standard king-side pawn storm?" For the record, Crafty is +58, -11, =27 against this player, while Ferret is +19, -0(!), =11 against him. So cptnbluebear is not a patzer for sure. It seems to be another transitivity issue. But one thing is for certain, Junior is *very* strong against computers. *very* strong.
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