Author: Don Dailey
Date: 04:18:32 09/19/98
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Hi Moritz,
Thank you for explaining this to me. Your reply is very reasonable
and I apologize for getting so edgy with you.
I'll snip pieces of your post to comment about.
>> I think
>>you probably did not mean any of this, but looking over them I see
>>you asking questions like
>
>>"did we question the other
>>moderators decisions"
>
>Please have patience with my special interest in this case - I feel involved
>since I was responsible for that decision, which now has been called the result
>of a "Kangaroo court" by Bob and was back then the reason why Bruce left CCC for
>good. I simply wanted to know why you suddenly announced your decision to invite
>back somebody who has likened *me* with SS Obersturmbannführer Adolf Eichmann
>(who was responsible for the death of more than 3 million Yews in Europe and
>sentenced to death by an Israeli court) in the past. I know that this has
>happend on r.g.c.c., not CCC, so it is not relevant to you, but it illustrates
>(hopefully) my sentiments in this case.
My sense of this whole business is that you guys simply made a
different decision that we might have in the same circumstance.
I don't see where this is a problem at all, unless you think we
all should be exact clones of each other! There will always
be a grey area where being slightly more or less forgiving will
make the difference between yet another warning, or an expulsion.
>Please also note that I agreed with Enrique's proposal to reinstate even this
>very Rolf Tueschen by the means of a standard "recovery" procedure for penalized
>former CCC participants. You see, I even supported your decision, although on
>different grounds.
You should realize that we were not trying to overturn any decision you
guys made earlier. We simply felt it was worth a gamble bringing him
back since he seems to have improved his attitude in recent weeks and
months.
>I don't see why it should be offensive for you to elaborate your reasons for
>having Tueschen back,
> I hope you will now understand a little bit better why I
>asked you about it.
It's extremely obvious. You were not sure if our motives for doing
it were based on "righting your wrong" which would be a slap on the face
to the previous moderators, or simply because we thought the situation
with Rolf had changed. I assure you we were not questioning your
decision, in fact we considered this stuff earlier and thought he
might still be a big problem. We think the situation has changed
and that is why we bring him back.
I am really sorry I did not take this into account earlier. We
certainly thought of this very thing and were concerned that our
actions would be percieved as a "slap in your face" and we did not
want this to happen. It is only natural that we both feel at
least slightly uncomfortable over this. You post was a natural
response to this anxiety, and my response was too.
> I voted for Don, Amir and Christophe, if I had been given 4
> votes instead of 3, Bruce would have been a likely candidate.
What? A little encouragement from someone! I must be dreaming!
Seriously, I appreciate the vote of confidence. Several folks
have said encouraging things about us and to us and it's certainly
appreciated.
>P.S.: This reply just cost me another hour, after your statements ("paranoid
>mistrust") I felt obliged to write this, I sincerely hope it was worth it for
>you.
Thanks for taking the time Moritz.
- Don
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