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Subject: Re: Weak-chain argument

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 03:46:33 02/16/03

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On February 15, 2003 at 22:17:52, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On February 15, 2003 at 14:52:10, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>
>>On February 15, 2003 at 14:34:31, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>> Answer me this, What Difference Does it make if you play more
>>>>positional chess, if you cannot defeated me??
>>>
>>>If that were the case, I would agree.  But by the same token, do you want
>>>your program to play 30 brilliant moves and one lemon move, over and over?
>>>That one lemon will drag your performance _way_ down at the top of the rating
>>>scale.
>>
>>
>>Bob, may I point out with humility that this is exactly my weak-chain argument?
>>Finally we are on the point. Did you ever reflect what would happen if
>>
>> - in a really recompensating money atmosphere and
>>
>> - after top players adopted specific comp related chess?
>>
>>And that on the base of a known permanent weakness?
>>
>>That is the point. And not the typical hype based on show events /commercials.
>>
>>What is you impression with the GM play on ICC? But note, Roman D. had to face
>>an always changed version [on the base of his own hints]. Guess what will happen
>>if several top GM work hard on a counter strategy against comps, in other words
>>if GM adopt 'Eduard'...
>>
>>Only then, and that is my argument since long, the actual commercial progs begin
>>to SUCK. But on a permanent base!
>>
>>My questions to Amir went a bit in the same direction. Let's see how far the
>>experts can open their mind.
>>
>>Rolf Tueschen
>
>
>The question is "too hard" for someone that is _not doing this_.  IE who can
>say what a top GM player would do when folks start waving a million bucks
>around?  IE would he try to stomp the program and end the matches for years?
>Would he intentionally "play down" to guarantee another million dollar match
>next year?
>
>I'm not capable or qualified to answer that...
>
>And anything I might say would be absolute 100% speculation.


But - you are qualified enough, perhaps the best qualified in the field, to
judge the actual strength of the progs in relation to GM and their chess. Say,
the GM would run wild and were determined to kill, would they succeed or not,
that is the question, NOT would they really want that or would they do it.

I know the answer from all what you said. But you want to hide it? For what
sensible goal? Do you want to avoid the deception of computerchess lovers
worldwide? Or don't you want to harm the future show events?


Rolf Tueschen





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