Author: Charles Worthington
Date: 14:35:00 02/18/03
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On February 18, 2003 at 17:03:12, Matt Taylor wrote: >On February 18, 2003 at 12:53:14, Charles Worthington wrote: > >>On February 18, 2003 at 12:02:36, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On February 17, 2003 at 23:51:46, Charles Worthington wrote: >>> >>>>Bob please tell me that I didn't just spend 18,900$ on this Dual 3.06 xeon >>>>ststem for no reason...I certainly hope there will be a significant performance >>>>increase over the amd 2400mp and xp. The fastest AMD on playchess pulls around >>>>2300 kns with deep fritz 7. I had hoped with dual 3.06 xeons and the new intel >>>>E7505 chipset i would exceed 3000 kNs. Was this unreasonable of me to expect >>>>this much speed? >>> >>> >>>I hope you didn't really mean "18,900 dollars". >>> >>>Current prices are: >>> >>>dual 2.8xeon + chassis + 2gb RAM, plus 2 x 36 gig U320 15K scsi drives, plus the >>>usual HD power supply, etc, for under $4,000. You mentioned 146 gig scsi >>>drives. >>>I bought three of those for my new ftp machine (there are no 15K 146 gig SCSI >>>drives that I am aware of so you take a rotational latency performance hit by >>>backing >>>off to 10K) and paid just under $1,000 each at MicroWarehouse. >>> >>>If you meant 8,900, that is closer to reality, although it seems high to me >>>looking at >>>dell prices. >>> >>>I can't answer the speed issue with respect to fritz. Crafty on my dual 2.8 >>>runs at about >>>2.5M nodes per second. This is with the quad-pumped 100mhz (400mhz claimed) >>>FSB. >>>Newer xeons are quad-pumped 133mhz (533mhz claimed) and should be even faster. >>>I'd >>>suspect Crafty might get close to 3M on that machine, in a position where it >>>gets 2.5M on >>>mine. I have no idea whether fritz is faster or slower in raw NPS however... >>My mistake...the drives are 10,000 RPM BOB but the price quote is correct. I >>bought the machine with all available options including the 4GB RAM and filled >>all hard drive bays with the largest drives. The biggest expense though was the >>memory. around 4 thousand if i remember right > >WHAT?!? > >Last April, I paid $330 for 1 GB Reg/ECC pc2100 CL 3 ram. Prices have not risen >-that- much. > >With 4 slots, that means I get up to 4 GB. I actually only get 3.5-3.8 GB with 4 >1 GB DIMMs because of memory-mapped I/O. (Whether this is a limitation of the >AMD chipset, the Athlon, or the hardware I do not know. I think it is likely >that the Pentium 4 Xeon systems have similar limitations.) > >-Matt The Memory in question Matt is the new DDR266 SDRAM. Prices at Dell.com are cuurently in the $4,000.00 neighborhood for 4GB (1GB DIMMS). I thought it was way expensive as well but far preferable in performance to the RDRAM I have in my current Dell Machine. It is PC800 and is not the best of performers.
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