Author: Sune Fischer
Date: 07:31:57 02/20/03
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On February 20, 2003 at 09:27:24, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >>You spew out insults upon insults (please tell me that you are aware of that), >>and that sets the tone in the conversation. >>How do you expect me to be polite and adress the real interesting topic when you >>continuesly insult me, I see nothing but declarations of war in your posts, and >>I'm not in the mood for your little war games. >> >>A conversation between two adult intellectuals is done by trying arguments and >>_listening_ to the responses. > > >Wrong. Intellectuals first should have the minimum of education. Listening makes >no sense if you lack of education. How do you get educated if you don't listen? >I'm very happy that once and for all I ca >prove how people like you are wrong when they call me to task for "my insults". >How can lack of education justify people to call other people names? Your reply >here proves beyond any doubt, that you never uderstood Bob nor me now. Actually your the one who is not getting it, but we will come to that. > And the >absolute hype is that you still are believing that you are well understanding >and "just making a subtle point". What are you doing? Because of your subtle >point Bob was writing his messages, but you don't get it. I will show you point >by point... Oh brother... > >> >>I know perfectly well Bob's point, that humans have not changed. But my subtle >>point was that the average can still change, ie. take a look at the muscles on >>the legs of football players 20 years ago and compare them with today. > > >Fine, but that is NOT the point. That's why I tried to explain the IQ tests and >also claimed that Alekhine could well be as strong as Kasparov. Chess has had >its historic progress, but Alekhine today could still be better than Kasparov. Aha! And this is where you completely DIDN'T get my point. I said talent and man hasn't changed, you can read into this, that Alekhine _might_ have been as strong as Kasparov, had he lived today. BUT he doesn't live today! Chess progresses like other sports, the top today is in all likelyhood stronger than the top 20 years ago, if you assume man and talent is the same. >The point of Bob is valid but you don't get it. Bob says and he is right, the >average is NOT changing overall. And you are always making your subtle point >that it does. No I am saying it _probably_ does increase, a little due to better tools and advances in chess over time. >Well - we see we have a seemingly contradiction. And I am saying >that this is only understood by educated people. Let us break down that sentence so even the moderators can see what you are doing here. Allow me to rephrase: "Sune, you can't understand this, you are too damn stupid, you do not have an education". Your version passes the charter (apparently?), mine falls through. This is what I mean by war game Rolf, you balance the charter all the time. To you it is a game of who can make the worst insults without breaking the charter. Well it is a stupid game Rolf, I know you are an expert player but I'm not up it today, okay. I know there are a lot more insults in the text below (I will leave as an easy exercise for the reader to find them), but I'm not going to read them because I honestly find these dicussions extremely tiresome and pointless. -S.
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