Author: blass uri
Date: 08:58:09 10/07/98
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On October 07, 1998 at 09:49:33, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On October 07, 1998 at 05:04:15, Jouni Uski wrote: > >>On October 07, 1998 at 04:31:48, Bruce Moreland wrote: >> >>> >>>On October 07, 1998 at 04:23:59, odell hall wrote: >>> >>>>I am interested in knowing whatever Rebel 10 will top the swedish rating list. >>>>And if Die Hard Sceptics such as Robert Hyatt will concede that Rebel 10 Is >>>>indeed Grandmaster Strength? >>> >>>The question is not whether Rebel or Hiarcs or Fritz or any of the others is of >>>GM strength, but of whether they all are. >>> >>>bruce >> >>And the answer is: YES. > > >If the answer is "YES", please produce some 40/2hr games where the >programs have beaten (or broken even) with GM players. The last four >games I personally watched ended up with the GM's ahead 3-1 in points, >and the last time I checked my Elo performance rating for that, I get >GM-200 for the rating... which is still in the 2400 range, where I've >said they are all along... The GM's were better than average GM's I know that Junior drew with 3 grandmasters before the match against yudasin I know that Zungzwang did a good result in a tournament (performance more than 2500 and I think it played against GM's in the tournament) I think that we should look at all the games that were played by computers against GM's last year in tournament time control. I am not sure if computers are of GM strength but they are very close and maybe part of them are GM's I am not impressed by the ability of computers They do too many mistakes that I will not do so the reason that computers are close to be GM's is not that computers are strong but GM's are weak. Uri > >Not action chess. Not blitz chess. But real tournament chess. > >When I see real evidence this is wrong I'll certainly change my mind. >But the evidence has to be doing respectably vs GM players, not trashing >some FM/IM players... There's a difference.. And the games have to be >40 moves in two hours or similar time controls...
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