Author: Drexel,Michael
Date: 05:04:20 06/22/03
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On June 22, 2003 at 07:25:53, Luis Smith wrote: >>I do not think like it. >>I believe that >>Nemeth cannot beat chess programs in match without knowing the program that is >>going to play against him including the opening book(in single game everything >>can happen). >> >>I think that some sweningen tournament of humans against machines should be >>organized when the winner of machines plays against the winner of humans. >> >>Uri > >Hi Uri, > > This is a good point, however I believe in this FRC game Nemeth showed us that >he can beat programs even without knowing what they are going to play. Say for >instance he went back and tried to play the program again, it surely would not >play the same moves because Chess Tiger has learning. > > I can only give you the advise to first look at the games yourself before making such statements. First of all Nemeth plays obviously on a very slow Computer. Do you know how long it takes for CM_SKR or Shredder 7.04 (and even Fritz 8) to avoid 14...Kxf7? on a mere AMD XP 2000+ ? Not 1 second ! I have purchased CA 7 not long ago and therefore all Chesstiger versions 12 - 15 including Gambit Tiger I,II and III. Chesstiger has very often problems with King safety. BTW Gambit Tiger has no problems in this position at all. It takes Chesstiger 14 about 30 seconds to avoid 14...Kxf7 on that machine. I think that the strongest human-human player, vs. the strongest >machine-machine player would mean nothing. Some Grandmaster's styles are more >fit to play against computers i.e. Karpov. I think he would have proved a much >better challenge than Kasparov. You can definitely NOT beat a program like Deep Junior 8 in a match with unsound chess. He would have had no chance at all in a match against the Deep Junior Team with his style of play. Michael
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