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Subject: Re: Someone in this forum is selling email addresses (OT)

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 16:55:30 09/10/03

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On September 10, 2003 at 18:43:07, Peter Fendrich wrote:

>On September 10, 2003 at 11:55:46, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On September 10, 2003 at 05:28:32, Peter Fendrich wrote:
>>
>>>I think you all are as annoyed as I am about all this spam filling my inbox.
>>>I have used 3 different email adresses over time in this forum.
>>>The first email adress I used was "infected" from start.
>>>The second one was used here only and was never mentioned anywhere else until I
>>>begun to get spam.
>>>The third one has never been used anywhere else than in this forum and now I
>>>receive a considerable amount of spam.
>>>It is not possible to automatically find these adresses with spider technique
>>>because the forum is password protected - you have to sign up before reading it.
>>>The addresses must have been catched by someone in this forum - right?
>>>Maybe there is some mirror somewhere?
>>>Any similar experiences?
>>>
>>>/Peter
>>
>>
>>It most likely is _not_ a result of selling addresses.  web crawlers exist
>>that do nothing but grab email addresses.  When you send an email, it goes
>>thru many machines before reaching the destination.  Each machine has the
>>opportunity to read the headers and extract your email.
>>
>>Anytime you visit a web site and supply your email, you suffer the same
>>risk.
>
>Well, part of my spam is about selling email addresses so they are traded
>alright.
>Anyway your "trick" with servers was new to me. I had kind of innocent view
>about these servers...
>
>The crawling shouldn't work inside this forum at least without a membership but
>I've also learned in this thread that there are archives outside the forum.
>
>I only supply special "spam email" addresses if required but there is another
>real risk that we can't do anything about: Anyone putting your email address in
>the "Tell your friend about this site - fill in his email address here"-field is
>also sending you to spam hell.
>
>/Peter


For about 3 weeks I averaged about 50,000 email messages per day.  Some
idiot SPAMmer found the email address "majordomo@cis.uab.edu" and chose to
use that as his spoofed return address to avoid SPAM filters.  Unfortunately
for me, he had about 50,000 _bad_ email addresses.  His SPAM bounced.  Right
to me.  I had to learn about procmail to get that under control.  :)

It is a serious problem.  It won't be long before we have some regulations
with teeth in them that make this extremely expensive for those that get
caught...




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