Author: Mark Young
Date: 18:45:38 11/06/98
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On November 06, 1998 at 20:51:16, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On November 06, 1998 at 19:21:51, Mark Young wrote: > >>On November 06, 1998 at 18:36:15, Bruce Moreland wrote: >> >>> >>>On November 05, 1998 at 19:34:38, Mark Young wrote: >>> >>>>I had a strong feeling this is what would happen. I would just mark this as one >>>>more vote for a Grandmaster that thinks top computer programs play at a GM >>>>level. >>> >>>As the author of the program in question, this would not be my first guess as to >>>what is going on in Morovic's mind. >>> >>>Sometimes you will be asked to do something by someone who is more enthusiastic >>>than you are, and between when you reluctanbly say yes and when the thing >>>actually happens, you come to realize the amount of work that you really agreed >>>to do, >> >>If you are saying with this statement that GM Morovic would not be able to play >>Ferret cold, and most likely win, that is what I am saying. I also think it >>would take more work then what GM Morovic wanted to do to get ready for Ferret >>and have good chances of winning, because I think, GM Morovic thinks Ferret most >>likely plays at a GM level. >> >>If GM Morovic thinks he could of just gone online and played Ferret and won, >>without much prep, I think the match would have been played. >> >>It has been my findings playing GM's with computers, that the love to play you >>when they think they can win easy, but when they find this not to be so, they >>avoid you like the plague. > > >this is grossly inaccurate and sort of insulting to GM players. Check on ICC >with some well-known GM players vs Crafty... ie Roman vs Crafty, or log on to >chess.net and check out Christiansen vs crafty (he maybe wins one of every 10 >games on a real good day)... yet he plays and plays and plays... I once watched >Roman play over 100 straight games winning maybe one of every 10. Ditto for >GM Lombardy, Dlugy, etc... > >I don't think they run and hide at all... Why don't you ask GM Roman, if some GM don't run and hide. I had to get GM Roman to award Chessgenius 5 a win in a game of a match I played with GM A. Ivanov on Chess Net. GM A. Ivanov ask me if he could play a match with Genius 5 at standard time controls. I agreed and after a few games Genius 5 was winning big in the match. In the last game GM A. Ivanov played with Genius 5, Genius 5 had a huge advantage, and was going to win easy. Then this Chess Pro GM A. Ivanov, instead of just resigning the game and saying I do not wish to play anymore, instead took the low road and just logged off, and would not finish the game, or reply to my messages, or stay logged on when I showed up online. I have other such examples when playing Grandmasters, but this one can be backed up by another GM that you know. I am not being insulting to Grandmasters, just relaying my true experiences when playing many of them. I wish this was not so, but I have seen this happen to many times with to many Grandmasters. This is why I was able to predict what would happen with the GM Morovic Vs Ferret Match. Experience is a good teacher. in fact they seem to relish playing >the programs that give 'em the most fits... > > > > >> >>and your enthusiasm reduces further, while the enthusiasm of the person >>>who convinced you to do the thing increases, because they also come to realize >>>how much you've agreed to do for them. >>> >>>bruce
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