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Subject: Re: Totally nonsense

Author: David H. McClain

Date: 04:12:49 10/20/03

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>>
>>Jim,
>>
>>Chessmaster 8000 is listed way down on the SSDF list.  Someone had to play the
>>games.  With the many members of SSDF it appears to me that if only a few would
>>play one or two games manually with the SSDF parameters there would be enough
>>games played to set a precedent and standard.
>
>
>Maybe they are simply not willing to test manually again like with CM 8000?
>
>
>>The King is listed in many tournaments and is also played on many chess servers
>>including Playchess.com and ICC.com.  It is played against all engines by
>>independent testers on this forum.  How did they do it?
>
>
>You know the answer by yourself. They did NOT use AUTO232 but another
>automatism.
>
>
>>The excuse you stated
>>for not testing Chessmaster 9000 is weak at best and this is not meant as an
>>insult to you.  It just is not a logical explanation for this Chessmaster
>>omission.
>
>
>Don't forget that SSDF does the testing voluntarily and without getting any cent
>for it. You and me and all others do not have the right to DEMAND that this or
>that program is going to be tested. Therefore there is also neither a need for
>them to EXCUSE nor to justify why some programs are tested and some others not.
>This Chessmaster topic has been discussed and explained (!) dozens of times here
>and I don't understand why it arises again and again.
>
>
>>It also appears to me that there are enough Chessmaster games stored on the
>>Playchess server for Chessbase to accumulate that an evaluation could be
>>determined.  Chessbase's silence, along with SSDF is puzzling.........
>>
>>DHM
>
>
>This is totally nonsense what you are writing here.
>CB server and ICC: Everyone can play there with own settings+books, (very) short
>time controls and different hardware. This has NOTHING to do with SSDF
>conditions. So including the CB server games and/or the ICC games is totally
>nonsense.

Harold,

You are correct.  It's total nonsense to not have the largest selling single
commercial chess program in the world not included on the SSDF list.

DHM



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