Author: Harald Faber
Date: 04:45:43 10/20/03
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On October 20, 2003 at 07:12:49, David H. McClain wrote: >>> >>>Jim, >>> >>>Chessmaster 8000 is listed way down on the SSDF list. Someone had to play the >>>games. With the many members of SSDF it appears to me that if only a few would >>>play one or two games manually with the SSDF parameters there would be enough >>>games played to set a precedent and standard. >> >> >>Maybe they are simply not willing to test manually again like with CM 8000? >> >> >>>The King is listed in many tournaments and is also played on many chess servers >>>including Playchess.com and ICC.com. It is played against all engines by >>>independent testers on this forum. How did they do it? >> >> >>You know the answer by yourself. They did NOT use AUTO232 but another >>automatism. >> >> >>>The excuse you stated >>>for not testing Chessmaster 9000 is weak at best and this is not meant as an >>>insult to you. It just is not a logical explanation for this Chessmaster >>>omission. START READING HERE: >>Don't forget that SSDF does the testing voluntarily and without getting any cent >>for it. You and me and all others do not have the right to DEMAND that this or >>that program is going to be tested. Therefore there is also neither a need for >>them to EXCUSE nor to justify why some programs are tested and some others not. >>This Chessmaster topic has been discussed and explained (!) dozens of times here >>and I don't understand why it arises again and again. >Harold, >You are correct. It's total nonsense to not have the largest selling single >commercial chess program in the world not included on the SSDF list. > >DHM First: Read again some lines above where I marked the important lines a bit. If you still don't understand it I can mark the keywords. Second: It is easy to criticize but hard to do it better. Why don't you jump on that train and do it yourself? Get yourself 2x AMD1200 and play CM 9000 original (!!) with 40/120+20/60 vs. Fritz 8, Hiarcs 9, Junior 8, Shredder 7.04, each match over 40 games. Feel free to send the games to SSDF then so that they can include those authentic games to their rating list and database.
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