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Subject: Re: Crafty-List question

Author: Ulrich Tuerke

Date: 17:19:46 11/27/03

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On November 27, 2003 at 19:59:39, Djordje Vidanovic wrote:

>On November 27, 2003 at 19:33:34, Amir Ban wrote:
>
>>On November 27, 2003 at 19:15:40, Ulrich Tuerke wrote:
>>
>>>BTW, would you be willing to make your source code available to inspection by
>>>the ICGA officials in case someone came claiming Junior is a Crafty clone
>>>without any proof ?
>>>
>>>Uli
>>
>>I would have said "no case to answer", but I would not fail to return emails or
>>phone calls.
>>
>>Amir
>
>
>Let's take counterfactual reality a bit further.  The Committee would have then
>gotten your email with the message "no case to answer" and the phone
>conversation would have conveyed the same message to the esteemed group
>"Gentlemen, I can't tell you much more:  there is no connection whatsoever
>between my program and program X".  If I got things right, they actually got as
>much from Fritz Reul in their first and only phone conversation -- so much can
>be gathered at the CB site.  Fritz then left home to sit for a math exam...
>
>Conclusion to be drawn:  you would have been disqualified and banned by the
>Committee, just like Fritz Reul and List because you did not let the board
>examine your program code.  I don't think that you would have liked that, being
>disqualified without any substantial evidence against you.  They admit to having
>only "circumstantial evidence" though.  Do you consider that sufficient to
>disqualify and ban an author and his program, and is this perhaps a dangerous
>way of opening the flood gates for future complaints based on suspicion,
>speculation and whatnot, without any substantial evidence?

To be fair: we don't know what kind of evidence they may have. I hope that this
will be made public soon.

According to all what I know about List (I had exchanged a few emails with the
author and I have played List a lot) it seems more than unlikely to me that
there is a relation to Crafty.

Uli

>
>Djordje



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