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Subject: Re: AMD 64 FX - PC Experts - Athlon 3400 just as good?

Author: Tom Kerrigan

Date: 20:39:42 01/08/04

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On January 08, 2004 at 22:50:32, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>>Where is this going on? Aren't all of the 64 bit Athlons named "Athlon 64"?
>
>They are not being called that everywhere.  IE 3400+ what?

I think you're confused about AMD's product line. 3400+ is the speed rating.
Athlon 64 is the family name. The full name of the chip is "Athlon 64 3400+" so
I don't think you have a valid complaint.

>>Besides, why shouldn't 64-bit Athlons be family members with 32-bit Athlons? The
>>architecture is very similar and they're backward compatible. The Athlon 64 is
>>related to the Athlon more than the Pentium 4 is related to the Pentium.
>
>say "opteron".  that is what we are talking about.  Yet it has been called
>opteron, FX51 and athlon-64.  Yes, I know that one has 1/2 the bus width,
>but still, they are essentially the _same_ CPU.  I don't see the need for

Yes, of course they're the same CPU, just as the Pentium 4 Xeon is the same as
the Pentium 4 Mobile is the same as the Pentium 4. It's called brand
differentiation.

>the confusion.  Any more than I liked the old Intel crap of 486-50DX2 and
>other such nonsense that tossed in the internal clock vs the external clock
>stuff.

It's not really nonsense. How else do you propose people tell the difference
between a 486/50 and a 486DX2/50?

>The opteron is good enough that it doesn't _need_ to be compared to the
>Intel MHZ rating...  Every time they use 3200+ they are referencing Intel,
>and that seems bad for _this_ particular chip.

Again, you're confused about AMD's product line. The Opteron isn't "compared to
the Intel MHZ rating." Opteron chip names don't even include clock speeds.
They're numbered, e.g., 240, 242, 844, etc. It's only the regular Athlon 64,
intended for Average Joe's consumpion, that has these performance ratings.

-Tom



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