Author: Mark Young
Date: 20:26:30 01/25/04
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On January 25, 2004 at 21:38:27, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On January 25, 2004 at 20:04:16, Rolf Tueschen wrote: > >>- - in a famous German forum the kids are on the streets and they shout: >> >>These old-fashioned Cray Blitz and Deep Blue monuments won't be "disqualified" >>by their authors with actualized Elo numbers. >> >>Is that true? Would these legends lose badly against today's elite of >>computerchess programs? >> >>I'm waiting! >> >>Rolf > > >I don't believe _any_ of them would "lose badly". Any "super-program" from deep >thought through Cray Blitz would be very tough opponents for today's programs. >However, hardware is beginning to catch up. Someone just pointed out on a chess >server last night that this quad opteron system I have is about the same speed >as the Cray T90 I ran on in 1995, in terms of raw nodes per second (6-7M back >then, 7-8M typically on the quad opteron). So it is now probable that Crafty >could actually win a match from Cray Blitz on a T90 with 32 CPUs, assuming I use >the quad opteron. My quad xeon 700 got ripped by the same machine a couple of >years back, however, so it would still be dangerous. > >I can't say much about how it would compare to other commercial programs as I >didn't run those tests with very little test time to play with the T90. > >The superiority of today's programs over the super-computers of 1995 are mainly >mythical, IMHO. I suspect the games would be a _lot_ more interesting than some >would believe. Of course, there is little chance to test such a hypothesis >since most old programs are long-retired, and such hardware is not readily >available today. Hello Bob, I have a question.. Since we do have the games of the old retired giants. Is it valid to use todays top programs to play over the positions of the old programs like Cray-blitz or Deeper Blue. Would such data be valid when trying to compare the old super-computers to todays top programs. I have seen this done on CCC before, but I am not sure if this kind of comparison is valid.
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