Author: Uri Blass
Date: 06:41:27 04/24/04
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On April 24, 2004 at 09:18:27, Djordje Vidanovic wrote: >On April 24, 2004 at 08:47:42, Kurt Utzinger wrote: > >>On April 24, 2004 at 08:07:48, Djordje Vidanovic wrote: >> >>>On April 24, 2004 at 07:32:32, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>On April 24, 2004 at 07:04:44, Johan Havegheer wrote: >>>> >>>>>Hello >>>>> >>>>>Ruffian won against The King in a tremendous endgame >>>>> >>>>>To djordje : Everything is working fine, out off book against Hydra yesterday >>>>>with >>>>>+ 0.56 >>>>> >>>>>We lost against Hydra due to the depth and a wrong plan in the endgame >>>> >>>> >>>>What do you mean that you lost due to the depth. >>>>Did Ruffian need another ply to avoid the losing blunder? >>>> >>>>Uri >>> >>> >>> >>>Ruffian reaches ply 18 easily here, but it still clings on to gxh4. It needs >>>play 19 to see that things are not peachy. (BTW, Hydra was doing a 20 ply search >>>here.) But I doubt that a single CPU version of Ruffian could actually avoid >>>the move at the Leiden time controls anyway. As already pointed out some other >>>programs also go for the pawn. What does Movei do? >>> >>>Djordje >> >> I doubt that it's a matter of depth and would rather say >> it's a matter of chess knowledge. >> Kurt > > > >I tend to disagree with you here. I'm pretty sure that Ruffian has more endgame >knowledge than Hydra :-). Another issue crops up here -- and I think that we >will disagree on that one too: I think that deep search = knowledge (good >examples can be Deep Blue and, nowadays, Hydra). But this is more of a >philosophical issue and I'd like to spare both you and the CCC membership as the >issue can easily turn into a flame war. > >Thanks for the insight anyway. What about knowledge of better time management? gxh4 increase the number of passed pawns for both sides so you can decide to use more time when you plan to make a move that increase the number of passed pawns of both sides. Uri
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