Author: Uri Blass
Date: 15:39:11 04/29/04
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On April 29, 2004 at 18:17:54, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On April 29, 2004 at 14:36:34, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On April 29, 2004 at 13:22:15, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On April 29, 2004 at 11:28:04, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On April 29, 2004 at 04:09:43, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >>>> >>>>>On April 28, 2004 at 19:25:34, ERIQ wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On April 28, 2004 at 14:30:13, Chris Taylor wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>The latest and greatest did really well, in the last computer contest. So, will a Windows version (XP or lesser) be made ready for buying? >>>>>> >>>>>>amazing! there is one buyer :) >>>>>> >>>>>>>I have my credit card ready? I can even send a postal order, or cheque! >>>>>> >>>>>>wow!! >>>>>> >>>>>>>It will make a nice addition to an already growing pile of Chess Stuff! >>>>>> >>>>>>not sure why?! but to each his own. >>>>>> >>>>>>IMO. diep couldn't beat it's way out of a paper bag in the middle of a rain >>>>>>storm, what would be the purpose in buying it? >>>>> >>>>>The recent tournaments have shown that Shredder is one leap ahead of all other >>>>>engines. I also know this based on my own experiments, as Shredder 8 is the only >>>>>engine that consistently scores above 50% against Falcon in my tests. >>>> >>>>That is a red flag. If Shredder is the _only_ engine that beats you in your >>>>tests, I'd personally be very concerned that my testing is badly flawed. IE if >>>>you can consistently beat fritz, you are doing something nobody else (except >>>>perhaps shredder) is doing... >>> >>>Saying that shredder is the only engine that consistently scores above 50% >>>against Falcon does not means that Falcon can consistently beat Fritz and it may >>>get exactly 50% against Fritz. >>> >>>Uri >> >> >>50% or 51% really doesn't matter. Either result seems far beyond any reality I >>can imagine. > >I tested Falcon at home here. At slow hardware with pretty quick time controls >using a good book it is real strong. > >Fritz is not forward pruning AFAIK and Falcon is forward pruning more than Ed >used to do. So when having equal number of cycles at a machine, Falcon *will* >have a good chance. > >Knowing not many have falcon i volunteer to keep a crafty-falcon match if you >keep on saying he's a liar. I would be using the same conditions. So fritz8.ctg >for falcon, that's all. Crafty version of your chosing, optimized as you want it >to be for single cpu usage (i have net2003 here if that's enough for you) and i >will load it as winboard/uci engine under fritz with your own book learning and >book.bin and a pretty quick level, as my dual k7 has other duties too. > >Of course i'll play many games to make it statistical significant in order to >try to proof that crafty is not having a chance against a modern engine like >Falcon. I have a dual K7 upstairs ready for such a match. > >Let me know whether you are interested in taking this proposal. > >Best regards, >Vincent I trust more David Omid than you so your results have no value because we have no way to know that you use falcon. It is better if you do not waste time in these tests. I do not think that it is going to convince somebody. Uri
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