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Subject: Re: Objective proposal Falcon - Crafty

Author: Mridul Muralidharan

Date: 14:04:18 04/30/04

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On April 30, 2004 at 10:51:28, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On April 30, 2004 at 09:25:57, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>
>>>If Falcon cannot use parallel hardware then it is not bob's fault.
>>
>>I never tested Falcon versus Crafty on unequal hardware. All my tests and my
>>conclusions are purely based on tests conducted on equal hardware, using one
>>processor, and same book.
>>
>>In my post in this thread
>>(http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?362197) I only mentioned the
>>name "Crafty" in the following paragraph:
>>
>>"Crafty is a great engine, and it is free. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't
>>be interested in other grandmaster-strength programs."
>>
>>And added that Shredder is stronger than other engines. If someone read that
>>differently and jumped to interesting conclusions, it is surely not my problem.
>
>
>Actually it is.  You _specifically_ said that only Shredder is capable of
>beating your program.  That _specifically_ suggests that no other commercial
>engine can do so.
>
>That was what I responded to...  I didn't bring Crafty into the discussion.
>Vincent did that in his usual "change the subject" form of discussion...


Hmm , he mentioned that his program gets consistently beaten for > 50% only by
shredder.
That does not imply that for all other engines , falcon beats them > 50%
For strong engines with decent timecontrols and an ok book (with not many sharp
lines) - most games would end in draws.
So I dont see anything per se wrong in his statement.
Even if fritz cannot beat his program > 50% , it does not imply that fritz is
weaker than falcon , the score could be 35% fritz wins , 15% falcon wins and 50%
draws !

So is it possible that it is you who might have jumped into conclusions ??

Mridul



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