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Subject: Re: Vincent

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 14:52:05 05/06/04

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On May 06, 2004 at 17:07:38, Sune Fischer wrote:

>On May 06, 2004 at 10:49:16, Arturo Ochoa wrote:
>
>>On May 06, 2004 at 08:29:42, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On May 06, 2004 at 06:14:25, Chris Taylor wrote:
>>>
>>>>I have a proposal.....
>>>>
>>>>Sell me a copy of Diep that you think is the best, and I will auto232 a match
>>>>against Crafty. You can have Tournament time, or a time control of your choice.
>>>>The two machines will be AMD3000.  Two of them. Say 40 games like the SSDF.
>>>>There is, also 3,4,5 and some 6 pieces EGTB. I have ½ meg of memory for each
>>>>program, thats the amount spare.
>>>>
>>>>Before I can continue Bob must be happy with the set-up as well! If this idea
>>>>ever gets off the ground, both you and Bob must be at ease with the conditions.
>>>>
>>>>I will not do this if there is any complaints from either you or Bob!
>>>>
>>>>That is two machines, as independently set-up as I can! That both of you are as
>>>>happy as one can be, in this situation!  I already have a copy of Crafty I can
>>>>use, Winboard ready. I would like — to buy a copy of Diep!
>>>>
>>>>I have a great admiration for Crafty, and would like to have an equal admiration
>>>>of Diep.
>>>>
>>>>Chris Taylor
>>>
>>>
>>>If Vincent fails to sell you a version of Diep I can send you a version of movei
>>>to play that match at 120/40 time control.
>>>
>>
>>How do you know that he can fail? I have received Diep Versions for years and he
>>has never failed.
>
>I'd be surprised if he let's any version slip out, what if it got tested by an
>independent tester who published the results?
>
>>>Movei will always change the first move so there will be no repeated games.
>>>movei may play 1...a6 1...a5 1...b6 and every possible move with white and with
>>>black.
>>>
>>>Note that I expect movei to lose the match but there is no problem with it.
>>>I never claimed that movei is stronger than crafty.
>>>
>>
>>Move shoud be play against en engine of its level. PLaying a Match against
>>Crafty, it would not be interesting becase we already know the final expected
>>result.
>
>The difference in level is not that big, I think it is less than 100 Elo.

Note that part of the difference is that crafty has a superior book when in case
of matches of 40 games I plan to always change the first move to avoid losing
the same game again and again and opening like 1.e4 a6 or 1.e4 a5 may give
crafty an additional advantage.

I am almost sure that Crafty is going to win against movei but I am also almost
sure that movei will win games and a match is going to be interesting for me.

I plan to improve movei before the match(I already have a version that is
probably better than the public version and I plan to release a better version
in the next 10 days.

Even 1.e4 a5 is not automatic loss and for black and seeing the result of a
match of 40 games is going to be interesting.

>
>Maybe a Movei-Diep match would be more interesting.

I prefer not to discuss about things that will never happen.
Like hyatt I do not plan to bet about matches.

Uri



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