Author: Uri Blass
Date: 15:20:16 06/09/04
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On June 09, 2004 at 17:02:30, Russell Reagan wrote: >On June 09, 2004 at 16:30:20, Anthony Cozzie wrote: > >>The e2e4 format is terrible because it is difficult to read for humans (uh, what >>piece did he move?). > >This is not an issue. No one is going to be reading XML files. Or at least, that >isn't the intent. The intent should be that it is easy for everyone to support a >standard that meets our needs, including the shortcomings of existing standards. > >Even if people did read chess XML files, they would have to be a hell of a >blindfold player to know the position after 50 moves, regardless of whether they >know what piece was moved or not. So what is the point in adding complexity to >the standard? > >>Admittedly parsing SAN is not hard (Zappa has a SAN parser) >>but Long algebraic (Nf3xe5) is easier for humans and computers both. > >Nf3xe5... Uh, what piece was captured? ;-) > >I like long algebraic also. When we talk about the difficulty of supporting SAN, >we have to consider relative difficulty. No, it is not difficult to support SAN, >but compared to coordinate notation, it _is_ difficult. Any kid a week into his >first high school programming class could support coordinate notation. Not a >chance for supporting SAN. That would be a semester long (or year long?) project >:-) > >By the way, did you write your own SAN parser, or did you borrow code? If you >wrote your own, does it _really_ support SAN? i.e., would your program read >moves like Lxf7? I don't know if that is really in the SAN standard or not, but >I've seen people from other countries post PGN containing moves like that. With >coordinate notation, there are no such problems with internationalization. People from Israel post games in the internet when the moves are with hebrew letters and I know no program that understands it (here is an example http://www.chess.org.il/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4359) If the target is to support internationalization then the program need to understand also games with hebrew letters and the same for other languages that do not use english letters. Uri
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