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Subject: Re: Kasparov still speaks about human interference with Deep Blue!!

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 15:10:01 12/22/98

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On December 22, 1998 at 14:33:15, Reynolds Takata wrote:

>On December 22, 1998 at 13:53:54, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On December 22, 1998 at 01:33:11, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>
>>>It was obvious that there was human interference in the [return] match with Deep
>>>Blue. Nobody paid attention to it because I lost
>>> and that?s all anyone cared about. Game two, for example. And then in game
>>>five, 11...h5 could never be played by a computer!
>>> We?ve tried that position on many programs and never, NEVER will a computer
>>>even consider that move, it?s too positional. It?s
>>> not even the 40th move selected by a computer, 40th! And IBM never releases any
>>>information! Show me how the computer
>>> comes up with ...h5, let?s see the printouts!" [See game below.]
>>>
>>>Unbelievable, can't he still admit, that he lost??
>>
>>Do you not know that the most noticable trait of a "jackass" is that one is
>>*very stubborn*???
>
>No offense, but just because you seem to always want to point to unnecessaty
>post,and even more unneccessary language.  Not that it's necessarily a bad thing
>there probably aren't 5 people in the world that wouldn't say that you aren't
>STUBBORN STUBBORN STUBBORN about your own opinions :).
>
>Have a nice day, and no sarcasm intended.  An honest observation


I'm not stubborn when some sort of "evidence" or "proof" is offered to change
my mind.  But that is an infrequent occurrence... particularly in the case of
Kasparov.  "no computer can find h5?"  That is not a hard move to find at all,
due to nothing more than king safety analysis...

He just makes these stupid statements, over and over.  As I have said before,
"never" is a long, long time.  "no program" is probably always a false beginning
to any statement...

ie I wouldn't be surprised if CSTal plays that instantly...  as but one
example.



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