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Subject: Re: Fritz - Deep Sjeng 1/2 - 1/2

Author: Dieter Buerssner

Date: 15:26:40 07/04/04

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On July 04, 2004 at 16:26:34, Frank Phillips wrote:

>On July 04, 2004 at 16:00:39, Dieter Buerssner wrote:
>
>>On July 04, 2004 at 13:59:26, Frank Phillips wrote:
>>
>>>This (and Uri's post about time management) seem to indicate that it would be
>>>advantageous to run an on site fics chess server and remove the need for humans
>>>to move the pieces for the machine.  I have forgotten why the need for humans to
>>>move real pieces is not as mind-bogglingly stupid as it first appears.  Hey, the
>>>games could be even be relayed through ICC and FICS to people interested in
>>>computer chess  ;-)
>>
>>To my knowledge, FICS like servers do not support the time control used at WCCC.
>>Also some remote engines might have problems with a local server. If you allow
>>really remote connections to a FICS server, the whole idea of a tournament,
>>where also programmers meet, is gone.

I did (on purpose) not show any opinion about whether automatic play should be
preferred or not. Just wanted to mention some technical details.

>OK, although I do not know how sacred the specific time control is; or whether
>the fics server software could be hacked appropriately.

If, then the later. Wouldn't it be rather embarassing to say: "Sorry, we cannot
play a classical time control, because our software cannot handle it". And it
surely should be possible to program some chess server, that can handle it
(although it will probably slightly more complicated than the normal sever time
controls, where for example, there is no need to keep a move counter for the
time control issues). Another thing that would need to be fixed, is the wrong
handling of some draws (for example, ICC will give you a draw, when you forfeit
on time for the P-side of KNKP: "no mating material", even when the N-side has a
forced mate).

The (some) CB-engines might not like a FICS-like server, because they cannot
connect to it with their typical GUI. And they might not like to play with a
bare engine. For example, because the GUI does their book handling (perhaps even
TB-handling, but I don't know).  So, practically, it might be not really easy to
just say: Let's play on a FICS like server.

Regards,
Dieter



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