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Subject: Re: Sempron vs. Athlon 64: Proof that Crafty's working set is < 256k

Author: Tom Kerrigan

Date: 13:47:52 08/20/04

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On August 20, 2004 at 16:23:12, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>>Ah, so, some qualification, in case I run the experiment and get different
>>results. How about you send me the version of Crafty that showed an improvement
>>from 512k to 1024k?
>
>No idea which version it was.  I could try to figure out when I first bought my
>original quad xeon, and track the version back to that, but does it really
>matter?
>
>You ran a simple experiment and drew a conclusion that is as accurate as
>flipping a coin and calling heads.  If you are happy with the coin toss model,
>fine by me.

I just downloaded Crafty and ran bench on an Athlon 64 3000+ and an Athlon 64
3200+ (the difference being the amount of L2 cache, 512k vs. 1MB) and the result
was _identical_. Looking at the log files, times were off by 0.01s here and
there, so the timing function seemed to have good resolution. IDENTICAL nodes
per second.

I based my conclusion on one datapoint and a good knowledge of computer hardware
and chess programs. If you think my knowledge is as valuable as a coin toss,
fine. But a second datapoint (doing an experiment that you yourself suggested
would have a different outcome) only serves to support my conclusion. So,
Occam's razor, do I understand how computers work, or am I just really lucky?

-Tom



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