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Subject: Re: EVIDENCE That Junior REALLY DID Perform Very Badly In Bilbao

Author: Graham Laight

Date: 03:14:28 10/14/04

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On October 14, 2004 at 05:31:31, Dennis Breuker wrote:

>On October 13, 2004 at 15:45:32, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On October 13, 2004 at 07:38:13, Graham Laight wrote:
>>
>>>Junior's performance in Bilbao was much worse than even I had thought - and now
>>>I have the weapon to prove it - the simulator in
>>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?391362
>>>
>>>Starting with the assumption that all 3 machines had equal win/draw/loss
>>>probablities, I tried different combinations of probabilities to produce the
>>>kind of results that Hydra and Fritz got (3.5/4). I found that setting the win
>>>probablity to 70%, the draw probability to 20%, and the lose probability to 10%
>>>gave a 27.4% probability of producing 3.5 points - which is reasonable.
>>>
>>>However - the probability for Junior's score (1.5/4) comes out at only 2.02%!!!
>>>
>>>To those who thought that my remarks about Junior's poor performance were
>>>statistically illiterate, I would ask you to run the simulator, and try to come
>>>up with win/draw/lose probabilities that give a good chance of the results we
>>>saw in Bilbao happening if each computer were equally as good.
>>>
>>>I await your probability numbers...
>>>
>>>-g
>>
>>
>>What happens if you run your simulation for only +four+ games for each player???
>>
>>:)
>
>I did just that:
>
>DJ won 1.5 points in 75% of the tournaments
>DJ won 2 points in 25% of the tournaments
>
>So the result was to be expected! :^)

With the parameters that you used, what was the probability of getting 3.5 -
which both Hydra and Fritz managed to achieve (assuming that you are a follower
of the prevailing doctrine that all 3 computers had approximately equal winning
probabilities)?

Actually, I can tell you: with 75% of tournaments producing 1.5 points, and 25%
of tournaments producing 2 points, your probability of getting 3.5 (which both
Fritz and Hydra achieved at Bilbao), is 0.

Point proven!  ;-)

-g



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