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Subject: Re: Future of Chess: Will GMs be able to draw computers?

Author: Tony Nichols

Date: 19:00:24 10/19/04

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On October 19, 2004 at 14:39:36, Russell Reagan wrote:

>On October 19, 2004 at 07:47:06, Tony Nichols wrote:
>
>>We already have handicap matches! You don't see humans consulting opening books
>>or endgame tablebases during the game, do you?
>
>>No! Computers have to use opening books because they don't understand our so
>>called crutches.
>
>>A computer doesn't understand anything. Maybe one day a computer will "steadily
>>count down the number of moves untill mate" but it will start at move 35 of a
>>Najdorf and stop when then endgame tablebases kick in!
>
>
>I wrote:
>
>>>...while you snicker at how it doesn't even understand...
>     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Snicker away ;)
>
>Again, you are putting a means before an end. That's backwards. It doesn't
>matter if the means is a human brain, artificial neural network, game tree
>search, or endgame tablebase, if it achieves the end. Soon the human brain will
>not be the best means.
 This is crazy! The human brain is the only means. It was a human brain that
wrote the program! We dont bow down to calculators do we. They definitely do
math faster than humans. The point is chess programs are tools for chess
players. If we want to have matches between humans and computers we should not
forget this. By the way, I will not be "snickering at how it doesnt even
understand" I will be having good laugh thinking about all the people who think
it does!
Regards
Tony



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