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Subject: Re: Future of Chess: Will GMs be able to draw computers?

Author: Russell Reagan

Date: 01:17:26 10/20/04

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On October 19, 2004 at 22:00:24, Tony Nichols wrote:

>We dont bow down to calculators do we.

If the contest is to see who can do arithmetic calculations with the greatest
accuracy and efficiency, then we would indeed bow down to calculators as they
are clearly superior at this task.


>They definitely do
>math faster than humans.

Right. At some point the calculators became faster than humans for doing simple
math. Calculators continued to get faster, while humans did not, and now
computers are billions of times faster than humans. Right now computers play
equally as well or better than the best humans in the world, and computers will
only get faster. Do you dispute any of this?


>The point is chess programs are tools for chess
>players.

That may be what chess programs are *to you*, but that isn't what they are to
everyone.


>If we want to have matches between humans and computers we should not
>forget this. By the way, I will not be "snickering at how it doesnt even
>understand" I will be having good laugh thinking about all the people who think
>it does!

I don't think anyone in this discussion claimed that computers understand
anything. What I am claiming is that chess is 100% purely mathematical and that
some day computers will play the game perfectly, while humans will never
approach perfection. My claim can be proven mathematically, at least
theoretically. I doubt that your claim that humans will always have a chance can
be proven, and I'm not even sure there is any evidence to support it. Your claim
seems mainly based upon human ego, emotion, or hope.



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