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Subject: Re: The importance of opening books -- a simple experiment

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 07:39:24 02/18/05

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On February 18, 2005 at 10:02:32, Arturo Ochoa wrote:

>On February 17, 2005 at 17:52:43, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On February 17, 2005 at 17:46:47, Tord Romstad wrote:
>>
>>>On February 17, 2005 at 16:16:16, Anthony Cozzie wrote:
>>>
>>>>I don't think you are being quite fair to Vincent here.  His actual statement
>>>>(or at least what I think he intended to say) is that "A good book vs no book is
>>>>worth 700 elo at the World Championships", and I think that it is not that far
>>>>off.  If you show up at the World Championships with no book, you have 0% chance
>>>>to win, regardless of what engine you use.
>>>
>>>I am not sure what he intended to say, but he did not mention anything about
>>>World
>>>Championships (at least not in the initial post, I haven't bothered to read the
>>>whole
>>>thread).  Basically he just said "book=700 Elo" without any qualifications at
>>>all.
>>>
>>>Perhaps it was just intended as a joke, as has been suggested in the current
>>>thread.
>>>
>>>>Anyway, if you don't feel the need to work on the book, don't.
>>>
>>>Of course I am not going to do much (if any) work on the book.  From my point of
>>>view, there is no point.  I cannot see how I can learn anything useful from it.
>>>
>>>>Arturo and I will enjoy getting good positions and easy points :)
>>>
>>>As you know, I usually don't participate in tournaments.  And if I ever do, my
>>>purpose
>>>is to meet the other participants, and not to try to win.  The competitive
>>>aspect of
>>>computer chess has very little interest to me.  My focus is not on defeating
>>>other
>>>chess engines, but on contributing to the continued improvement of chess playing
>>>algorithms.  I want to see the general level of amateur computer chess engines
>>>continue to rise, and to feel that I have at least a tiny part of the honor for
>>>this.
>>>From this perspective, working on the book would be a complete waste of time.
>>>
>>>I concede that a good book is definitely an important factor in tournament play,
>>>but it will be really hard to convince me that it is worth anywhere near 700
>>>points.
>>>I leave the discussion of precisely how much can be gained by a good book to
>>>those who are more interested in tournaments.
>>>
>>>And by the way, trust me:  Zappa really wouldn't need any special book
>>>preparation
>>>to get good positions and easy points against Glaurung.  :-)
>>>
>>>Tord
>>
>>Same for movei
>>
>>For some reason Artuto does not understand that opponents get easy points
>>against movei simply because movei is an extremely weak engine.
>>
>
>My name is Arturo and not Artuto. Learn to spell my name, please.

sorry but in this case it was a typing error and not spelling error.
t and r are neighbours in the screen.

I decided not to respond about more things that you say in this post.
It does not mean that I agree with them

Uri



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