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Subject: Re: The importance of opening books -- a simple experiment

Author: Sune Fischer

Date: 09:18:45 02/19/05

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On February 19, 2005 at 11:39:31, Arturo Ochoa wrote:


>>I'm not interested in 1 example, I'm interested in Elo, ie. what can be expected
>>on the average.
>
>I gave a percentage but I wont point out the opponents. Neither some people this
>nor your way to flame will essential information in my preparation.
>
>If you understand what 30% means. It is Ok. If you understood my example
>(although I doubt it based on your previous postins), It is Ok.
>
>If you think, that a book tuned by hand is silly and it doesnt represent any
>useful thing. You will be sucked in official Tournaments. That´all.

I don't care so much about "official" tournaments.

>>
>>If you claim 10 of 10 it's just not a representative example.
>>
>
>Every unique result wont be representative for you. So it is useless to explain
>what I mean.

I thought maybe you could interpret the data and present me with a summary /
conclusion.
Remember you did claim to have proof it was more than 100 Elo :)

>>This whole book / anti-book / anti-anti-book / anti-anti-anti-book competition
>>seems real silly to me, but if there is enough Elo to be found....
>>
>
>That is the reason why you engine will be always beated.

I suspect the reason is that I have a full time job and only one computer for
testing.
But you are right that it will always lose some points because I am not
interested in cooking anti-EngineX book lines.

It doesn't seem like real rating to me, yes you will score extra points in a
tournament here or there, but are you going to be a co-player like that to the
engine always whereever it goes whereever it plays?

Of course not, you might eventually want to sell it, you want it to do well on
the SSDF or whatever. The program must stand on it's own two feet, no holding
hands with a book-specialist all the time.

Everything must be automated, learning, book generation, everything or it won't
be "real" (IMHO).

>It is sillier to reply a topic without being interested. What are your
>intentions there? Flame the topic?

Getting to the truth :)

-S.
>AO.



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