Author: Arturo Ochoa
Date: 20:54:25 02/27/05
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On February 27, 2005 at 21:51:51, Peter Skinner wrote: >On February 27, 2005 at 21:33:23, Arturo Ochoa wrote: > >>The problem is how you manipulate the results of the Tournament Paderborn 2005 >>in an useless elo Table. > >How did I manipulate the results from the tournament? > >I took the participants, averaged their elo to be around 2430, so I rounded down >to 2400. > >Then I input the pgn file into elostat 1.3, and poof.. Diep's TPR was 2397. That >ranked 11th in the tournament. It may have finished 7th, but based on the >performance of it's opposition, and where it placed, the performance dropped. > According what you have been pointing out all the weekend, you dont have the complete pgn file of the Tournament. If this information is correct, then you table is not valid, because you are not considering all the games. Second, what is the sense of putting an initial value of 2400? Why not 2000 or 2800? I do not find logic to say an Elo of XXXX based on an incomplete pgn file and an initial elo that you put arbitrarily. >It is really that hard to understand? I return this question. Is it really impossible to understand that your estimation is useless? You cannot sell a thing that it is incomplete and it has been manipulated. > >I could use a base elo of 2500, and guess what... Diep would _still_ have a TPR >in 11th place. > >Would you like me to adjust it so that Diep is slightly under 2500 so you can >sleep at night? > >Would you honestly figure the average elo for the participants to be at 2500? Of >course not. It is definately closer to 2400. > I dont know, a realistic rating is not based on any assumption that you think it is true for yourself. >I am not arguing where it finished in the actual tournament. It indeed finished >7th. It's _performance_ was 2397. That is something I can not manipulate. > >2 + 2 does not equal 5. Atleast in my world it doesn't. > As 2 + 2 = 4, How do you put 2400 as the initial value? Really interesting how you collapse under a sea of ambiguities. Arturo. PD: Accusing me of being other person says a lot about your person. Just a comment.
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